From: "Alan Cook" <alangregorycook-AT-msn.com> To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:46:31 GMT Subject: [Puptcrit] Stop Motion Puppets I'd recommend studying videos of Gumby, Davey & Goliath, the California Raisins, any old movies by pioneering Starevich, Ray Harryhausen. Check out the recent BIG book by Harryhausen currently in bookstores. There may be local stop-motion and/or cartoon animation classes for kids (some art centers have provided them in the past as at the Junior Art Center in Hollywood CA. Gary Schwartz has done one-day workshops at our Getty Museum and for an L.A. Guild Puppet Day. He uses a "lunchbox" device attached to video monitor so onscreen you can see the previous frame and the current one superimposed. saves lots of time---we used a gauge which had to be placed and removed from the set between each shot for DAVEY & GOLIATH in the 1960s. New technology is at least 4 times faster, and can help with the smoothness of motion. ALAN COOK -----Original Message----- From: puptcrit-request-AT-lists.driftline.org Sent: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:03:12 -0800 To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Subject: puptcrit Digest, Vol 14, Issue 11 Send puptcrit mailing list submissions to puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to puptcrit-request-AT-lists.driftline.org You can reach the person managing the list at puptcrit-owner-AT-lists.driftline.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of puptcrit digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: a request for any stop motion leads (Yvette Edery) 2. Re: a request for any stop motion leads (Yvette Edery) 3. Re: Efficiency of Finger Puppets (Mathieu Ren?) 4. Re: Efficiency of Finger Puppets (Kismet) 5. Re: puppet theater and critical theory (Bdfisler-AT-aol.com) 6. Re: Efficiency of Finger Puppets (Jimsan777-AT-aol.com) 7. Re: a request for any stop motion leads (Steve Millward) 8. Re: Efficiency of Finger Puppets (William S. Jones) 9. Re: a request for any stop motion leads (Christopher Hudert) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:10:00 -0800 (PST) From: Yvette Edery <art_goo-AT-yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] a request for any stop motion leads To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <20051214041000.43645.qmail-AT-web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Mary, Thanks for the kind words. When I was 17 I used to play with my parent's high 8 video camera. You can get a used one pretty cheap. However, if she really wants to be a puppet filmmaker when she grows up, if she can get her hands on a mini DV camera then she may be able to begin making films that can be edited with consumer computer editing software that is now coming with some home PCs or Macs. --- Mary Horsley <mphorsley-AT-earthlink.net> wrote: > Yvette, > I am so impressed....now, what kind of video camera > would you suggest for a > seventeen year old? My daughter loves making stories > with her American Girl > dolls......and I want to get her the right stuff. > > Mary > > "The great pleasure in life is doing what people say > you cannot do." > -Walter Bagehot > > "One's philosophy is not best expressed in words; it > is expressed in the > choices one makes. In the long run, we shape our > lives and we shape > ourselves. The process never ends until we die. And, > the choices we make > are ultimately our own responsibility."-----Eleanor > Roosevelt > > "Somebody should tell us, right at the start of our > lives, that we are > dying. Then we might live life to the limit, every > minute of every day. Do > it! I say. Whatever you want to do, do it now! There > are only so many > tomorrows. > > -Michael Landon > > www.gentleteaching.com > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Yvette Edery <art_goo-AT-yahoo.com> > > To: new puptcrit <puptcrit-AT-driftline.org> > > Date: 12/13/2005 6:17:15 PM > > Subject: [Puptcrit] a request for any stop motion > leads > > > > Hey Puppet Family! > > > > I am writing because I have had this long time > secret > > love affair (gasp!) with stop motion puppetry. As > many > > of you may know, I work in film and television > > whenever possible (I love moving picture creation > as > > well as the interactive buzz of live performance) > and > > I am looking to learn and work in stop motion now > as > > well. In fact, it is my goal for the new year. To > > learn as much about stop motion as possible. And, > if I > > am lucky, work in the field too. > > > > So, if anyone knows any good leads about stop > motion, > > books, videos, gigs, please pass them my way! I > will > > be forever grateful and super excited to share my > > projects and findings. > > > > Also, if you have not checked out my company's all > new > > website, please do! We worked on it intensely for > a > > while there and I am happy and proud of all my > great > > puppet family. > > > > www.artistrye.com > > > > With thanks! > > > > Yvette Edery > > Director, ArtistrYE Productions > > Puppetry for Film, Television, & Theater > > > > www.artistrye.com > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org > > Admin interface: > http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org > > Archives: http://www.driftline.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org > Admin interface: > http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org > Archives: http://www.driftline.org > Yvette Edery Director, ArtistrYE Productions Puppetry for Film, Television, & Theater www.artistrye.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:10:56 -0800 (PST) From: Yvette Edery <art_goo-AT-yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] a request for any stop motion leads To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <20051214041056.53850.qmail-AT-web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> apple powerbook will have the editing software I was just mentioning! :-) --- Mary Horsley <mphorsley-AT-earthlink.net> wrote: > Question: if you were buying a laptop for a teen who > likes to do photo > stories, etc., would you buy an Apple Powerbook or a > PC laptop? Shopping > and don't know which one.... > > Mary > > "The great pleasure in life is doing what people say > you cannot do." > -Walter Bagehot > > "One's philosophy is not best expressed in words; it > is expressed in the > choices one makes. In the long run, we shape our > lives and we shape > ourselves. The process never ends until we die. And, > the choices we make > are ultimately our own responsibility."-----Eleanor > Roosevelt > > "Somebody should tell us, right at the start of our > lives, that we are > dying. Then we might live life to the limit, every > minute of every day. Do > it! I say. Whatever you want to do, do it now! There > are only so many > tomorrows. > > -Michael Landon > > www.gentleteaching.com > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Kismet <kismet-AT-bigpond.net.au> > > To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org> > > Date: 12/13/2005 7:09:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] a request for any stop > motion leads > > > > Hey Yvette, > > Synchronicity... > > Well Ive played with stop motion since I was a kid > but I have just found > > "Stop Motion Pro v.4" on the internet, and the > trial is free to download > > (you get a red line through your images but...) > This is VERY powerful > stuff > > but simple to use if you want to animate 3D > models, 2D cels...although I > > prefer Antechinus Animator (lets you create and > manipulate cels in > > Photoshop) or time lapse stuff. SMP v.4 Costs > about $300 US but WELL > worth > > it...download and have a play! > > > > D. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Yvette Edery" <art_goo-AT-yahoo.com> > > To: "new puptcrit" <puptcrit-AT-driftline.org> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:17 AM > > Subject: [Puptcrit] a request for any stop motion > leads > > > > > > > Hey Puppet Family! > > > > > > I am writing because I have had this long time > secret > > > love affair (gasp!) with stop motion puppetry. > As many > > > of you may know, I work in film and television > > > whenever possible (I love moving picture > creation as > > > well as the interactive buzz of live > performance) and > > > I am looking to learn and work in stop motion > now as > > > well. In fact, it is my goal for the new year. > To > > > learn as much about stop motion as possible. > And, if I > > > am lucky, work in the field too. > > > > > > So, if anyone knows any good leads about stop > motion, > > > books, videos, gigs, please pass them my way! I > will > > > be forever grateful and super excited to share > my > > > projects and findings. > > > > > > Also, if you have not checked out my company's > all new > > > website, please do! We worked on it intensely > for a > > > while there and I am happy and proud of all my > great > > > puppet family. > > > > > > www.artistrye.com > > > > > > With thanks! > > > > > > Yvette Edery > > > Director, ArtistrYE Productions > > > Puppetry for Film, Television, & Theater > > > > > > www.artistrye.com > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org > > > Admin interface: > > > > http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org > > > Archives: http://www.driftline.org > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/199 > - Release Date: > > > 13/12/2005 > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org > > Admin interface: > http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org > > Archives: http://www.driftline.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org > Admin interface: > http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org > Archives: http://www.driftline.org > Yvette Edery Director, ArtistrYE Productions Puppetry for Film, Television, & Theater www.artistrye.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:07:33 -0500 From: Mathieu Ren? <creaturiste-AT-magma.ca> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Efficiency of Finger Puppets To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org> Message-ID: <001701c60064$080ce430$1234f3c7-AT-critter1> reply-type=original Thanks Daniel, that was inspiring and encouraging! I would love to see those finger skulls you mentionned. I'm a sucker for well-made skulls, stylised or not. I too love the small shows, and would prefer to perform those myself. But as a maker of puppets, I also have to think about possibilities for my customers, and small audiences are not often seen as money bringing, when you consider all the effort that goes into promoting a show. I'm starting to see Finger Puppets as baby Rod Puppets. I don't know how you call those in English, but in French they call the simple puppet I'm talking about a "marotte". Only a head and some dangling arms on a single stick. No added rods, no mecanics or effects. I had no interest in those (how can this be a true puppet?) until I saw a complete show with these. AWESOME! What movements! What expressivity! And the marottes were very primitive-looking, with wooden balls for heads and mittens for hands. The costumes made all the difference. Simple but very efficient. Rich colors, no overkill of details. My robot, Tornado 2.0, is a more complex-looking marotte, which I made soon after I saw the show: www.magma.ca/~uubald/tornado.html Mathieu Ren? Cr?aturiste Marionnettes, Masques, Etcetera... Puppets, Masks, Etcetera... creaturiste-AT-magma.ca www.creaturiste.com (514) 274-8027 ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:49:28 +1000 From: "Kismet" <kismet-AT-bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Efficiency of Finger Puppets To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org> Message-ID: <018f01c60069$c3ce4880$0100000a-AT-brainlesstwit> reply-type=original I think we call them a Mace but may be wrong....Czech Marionettes has a few really beautiful ones and some are double faced... http://www.czechmarionettes.com/published_v1/ShopPage.aspx?artistID=6&marionetteID=153&type=Original for example Of course Heda's puppets like Spejbl or Hurvinek are classics in less is more..... D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mathieu Ren?" <creaturiste-AT-magma.ca> To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Efficiency of Finger Puppets Thanks Daniel, that was inspiring and encouraging! I would love to see those finger skulls you mentionned. I'm a sucker for well-made skulls, stylised or not. I too love the small shows, and would prefer to perform those myself. But as a maker of puppets, I also have to think about possibilities for my customers, and small audiences are not often seen as money bringing, when you consider all the effort that goes into promoting a show. I'm starting to see Finger Puppets as baby Rod Puppets. I don't know how you call those in English, but in French they call the simple puppet I'm talking about a "marotte". Only a head and some dangling arms on a single stick. No added rods, no mecanics or effects. I had no interest in those (how can this be a true puppet?) until I saw a complete show with these. AWESOME! What movements! What expressivity! And the marottes were very primitive-looking, with wooden balls for heads and mittens for hands. The costumes made all the difference. Simple but very efficient. Rich colors, no overkill of details. My robot, Tornado 2.0, is a more complex-looking marotte, which I made soon after I saw the show: www.magma.ca/~uubald/tornado.html Mathieu Ren? Cr?aturiste Marionnettes, Masques, Etcetera... Puppets, Masks, Etcetera... creaturiste-AT-magma.ca www.creaturiste.com (514) 274-8027 _______________________________________________ List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Admin interface: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org Archives: http://www.driftline.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/199 - Release Date: 13/12/2005 ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:51:33 EST From: Bdfisler-AT-aol.com Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] puppet theater and critical theory To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <1ac.45a72275.30d0fed5-AT-aol.com> Hello Lana, Here's a smattering of some of the better sources. Good hunting! Yours, Ben Fisler, Ph. D. Theatre Director Otero Junior College 1802 Colorado Avenue La Junta, CO 81050 Kelly, Catriona. Petrushka: The Russian Carnival Puppet Theatre. New York: Cambridge University Press, 1990. Arnott, Peter D. Plays without People: Puppetry and Serious Drama. Bloomington: Indiana University Press, 1964. Humor and Comedy in Puppetry: Celebration in Popular Culture. Edited by Dina and Joel Sherzer. Bowling Green, OH: Bowling Green State University, 1987 Gordon Craig, Edward. On the Art of the Theatre. Chicago: Browne's Bookstore, 1912. Jurkowski, Henryk. Aspects of the Puppet Theatre. Edited by Penny Francis. London: Puppet Centre Trust, 1988. Menschke, Michael, in collaboration with Margaretta Sorenson. In Search of Aesthetics for the Puppet Theatre. New Delhi: Sterling Publishers Private, 1992. Shershow, Scott Culter. Puppets and Popular Culture. Ithaca: Cornell University Press, 1995. Tillis, Steve. Toward an Aesthetics of the Puppet. San Jose: San Jose State University, 1972. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:37:51 EST From: Jimsan777-AT-aol.com Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Efficiency of Finger Puppets To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <df.21ecd74a.30d117bf-AT-aol.com> There was a finger puppet puppeteer, Sheffield, who did some lovely things at PofA Festivals back in 1955-56. He had strippers and other night club acts with finger puppets. I must research my old journals to remember the details. (Sorry, I'm havin g senior, grandpa moment......) Maybe Alan Cook can help...he attended the same festivals...Jim Gamble We also saw some fine work in Zagreb at the PIF Festival, night club style finger puppet acts....JG ( I think i have video of this act.) Maybe after Christmas, I can do some searching.... ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:45:21 -0700 From: Steve Millward <millwarden-AT-gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] a request for any stop motion leads To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <5374dff20512132245if28d6efp430770d971057ae7-AT-mail.gmail.com> No contest. Get the Mac. Steve Millward On 12/13/05, Yvette Edery <art_goo-AT-yahoo.com> wrote: > apple powerbook will have the editing software I was > just mentioning! :-) > > > > --- Mary Horsley <mphorsley-AT-earthlink.net> wrote: > > > Question: if you were buying a laptop for a teen who > > likes to do photo > > stories, etc., would you buy an Apple Powerbook or a > > PC laptop? Shopping > > and don't know which one.... > > > > Mary > > > > "The great pleasure in life is doing what people say > > you cannot do." > > -Walter Bagehot > > > > "One's philosophy is not best expressed in words; it > > is expressed in the > > choices one makes. In the long run, we shape our > > lives and we shape > > ourselves. The process never ends until we die. And, > > the choices we make > > are ultimately our own responsibility."-----Eleanor > > Roosevelt > > > > "Somebody should tell us, right at the start of our > > lives, that we are > > dying. Then we might live life to the limit, every > > minute of every day. Do > > it! I say. Whatever you want to do, do it now! There > > are only so many > > tomorrows. > > > > -Michael Landon > > > > www.gentleteaching.com > > > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > From: Kismet <kismet-AT-bigpond.net.au> > > > To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org> > > > Date: 12/13/2005 7:09:48 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] a request for any stop > > motion leads > > > > > > Hey Yvette, > > > Synchronicity... > > > Well Ive played with stop motion since I was a kid > > but I have just found > > > "Stop Motion Pro v.4" on the internet, and the > > trial is free to download > > > (you get a red line through your images but...) > > This is VERY powerful > > stuff > > > but simple to use if you want to animate 3D > > models, 2D cels...although I > > > prefer Antechinus Animator (lets you create and > > manipulate cels in > > > Photoshop) or time lapse stuff. SMP v.4 Costs > > about $300 US but WELL > > worth > > > it...download and have a play! > > > > > > D. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Yvette Edery" <art_goo-AT-yahoo.com> > > > To: "new puptcrit" <puptcrit-AT-driftline.org> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:17 AM > > > Subject: [Puptcrit] a request for any stop motion > > leads > > > > > > > > > > Hey Puppet Family! > > > > > > > > I am writing because I have had this long time > > secret > > > > love affair (gasp!) with stop motion puppetry. > > As many > > > > of you may know, I work in film and television > > > > whenever possible (I love moving picture > > creation as > > > > well as the interactive buzz of live > > performance) and > > > > I am looking to learn and work in stop motion > > now as > > > > well. In fact, it is my goal for the new year. > > To > > > > learn as much about stop motion as possible. > > And, if I > > > > am lucky, work in the field too. > > > > > > > > So, if anyone knows any good leads about stop > > motion, > > > > books, videos, gigs, please pass them my way! I > > will > > > > be forever grateful and super excited to share > > my > > > > projects and findings. > > > > > > > > Also, if you have not checked out my company's > > all new > > > > website, please do! We worked on it intensely > > for a > > > > while there and I am happy and proud of all my > > great > > > > puppet family. > > > > > > > > www.artistrye.com > > > > > > > > With thanks! > > > > > > > > Yvette Edery > > > > Director, ArtistrYE Productions > > > > Puppetry for Film, Television, & Theater > > > > > > > > www.artistrye.com > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org > > > > Admin interface: > > > > > > > http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org > > > > Archives: http://www.driftline.org > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/199 > > - Release Date: > > > > 13/12/2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org > > > Admin interface: > > > http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org > > > Archives: http://www.driftline.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org > > Admin interface: > > > http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org > > Archives: http://www.driftline.org > > > > > Yvette Edery > Director, ArtistrYE Productions > Puppetry for Film, Television, & Theater > > www.artistrye.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org > Admin interface: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org > Archives: http://www.driftline.org > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:57:40 -0800 From: "William S. Jones" <wsjones-AT-basingstoke.org> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Efficiency of Finger Puppets To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <a0623090ebfc572a93890-AT-[4.243.119.192]> ..and don't forget Mollie Falkenstein.....who did wonderful Ballet dancers... LOL Bill >There was a finger puppet puppeteer, Sheffield, who did some lovely things at >PofA Festivals back in 1955-56. He had strippers and other night club acts >with finger puppets. I must research my old journals to remember the >details. (Sorry, I'm havin g senior, grandpa moment......) Maybe >Alan Cook can >help...he attended the same festivals...Jim Gamble ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:07:46 -0500 From: Christopher Hudert <heyhoot-AT-mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] a request for any stop motion leads To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <C44766C8-6CBB-11DA-8A4E-003065AB1E0A-AT-mindspring.com> Definitely Mac. With as much RAM and hard drive as you can afford, and since you want to make movies, be sure to get one with a DVD burner. It is not that much more than one that only reads DVDs and burns CDs. High end iBook or one of the Powerbooks will depend on your budget. As to the camera, go digital if possible (less conversion issues) and look for one that has firewire transfer from camera to computer. Again, don't worry about trying to get the best, just go as high end as your budget will allow. With a digital camera and a Mac you will probably be ready to go right out of the box. On Dec 14, 2005, at 1:45 AM, Steve Millward wrote: > No contest. Get the Mac. > > Steve Millward > > On 12/13/05, Yvette Edery <art_goo-AT-yahoo.com> wrote: >> apple powerbook will have the editing software I was >> just mentioning! :-) >> >> --- Mary Horsley <mphorsley-AT-earthlink.net> wrote: >>> Question: if you were buying a laptop for a teen who likes to do >>> photo stories, etc., would you buy an Apple Powerbook or a >>> PC laptop? Shopping and don't know which one.... >>> Mary ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Admin interface: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org Archives: http://www.driftline.org End of puptcrit Digest, Vol 14, Issue 11 **************************************** _______________________________________________ List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Admin interface: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org Archives: http://www.driftline.org
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