To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org>
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 17:25:40 -0400
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Is it the gun or the glue?


I wionder about this too.
But cheaper does often mean "irregular" in production or distribution 
channels.
One batch of the low-temp hot glue might actually be a batch of hot.
For that time only.

THere is no way to ensure wuality besides getting the stuff from a 
recognised reliable source.

I have ben using the ARROW extra long dual temp hot glue sticks, and have 
had no melting problem. And they use the puppets in shows. But my customer 
companies do not store the puppets in cars for any perriod, at any time or 
weather.

Logically, I have refused to use low-temp hot glue sticks because to me it 
seems that since they require less heat to melt, they would be more prone to 
problems in hot weather.
I only use the dual temp sticks, and the only times I use low heat is to 
hold thing together temporarily, like attaching foam paddings inside masks 
that have been well varnished. This means we can pull the foam padding off 
for replacement.

I never use hot glue to hold things that will cause strain on the hot glue.
Fake fur and fabrics, as long as they own't be pulled at, will stay put.
Think of sports mascots performing at games in the hot summer days, do they 
melt?





Mathieu René Créaturiste
Marionnettes, Masques, Etcetera...
Puppets, Masks, Etcetera...
www.creaturiste.com
creaturiste-AT-magma.ca
(514) 274-8027
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <gazpuppets-AT-aol.com>
To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: [Puptcrit] Is it the gun or the glue?


> I live in Phoenix where cars get HOT in the summer.  We typically have at 
> least a month where high temperatures exceed 110 every day.  We have had 
> styrofoam melt if leaning against a van wall.  We once left a foam puppet, 
> put together with a mini low melt glue gun ($1.99 at Michael's)  on the 
> floor of our van for the entire summer.  It was a demo puppet and fell 
> under the back seat so we didn't miss it.  When we found it, it was still 
> together!  Amazing.
>
> We regularly use low temp guns to attach hair or fake fur to papier mache, 
> etc. and have had no trouble with it.  Trouble does arise if you try to 
> manufacture a prop with hot glue - hard surface to hard surface  - but 
> bonding a porous material to a hard one seems to work out well.  That 
> said, I wouldn't depend on hot glue for a foam puppet I'm using in a show, 
> but I am wondering - what about the glue?
>
> I have been using Adhesive Tech's Ultimate All Temperature glue sticks and 
> have liked them.  Recently I tried Aleene's all-purpose Mini glue sticks. 
> They advertise themselves thus:  Dual temp formula - superior bonding - 
> even in low temperatures! - Dries transparent - 50-60 second working time.
>
> The longer working time is terrific.  And I ask myself, why would a foam 
> puppet put together with low melt glue be ok in Phoenix?  Is it the lower 
> humidity?  Maybe we should all make foam puppets using different guns and 
> different glues, leave them in our cars,  and report back to each other at 
> the end of the summer - -
>
> Sweating and wondering in Phoenix,
>
> Nancy Smith
> Great Arizona Puppet Theater
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Axtell <steve-AT-axtell.com>
> To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org
> Sent: Wed, 17 May 2006 08:23:15 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Best glue gun in the world?
>
>
> My search is for an affordable HIGH TEMP gun that won't allow glue to 
> soften below 200 degrees, so if something made with it is left in a hot 
> car it won't soften.
>
> Ax
>
>
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