From: "Alan Cook" <alangregorycook-AT-msn.com> To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 19:28:46 GMT Subject: [Puptcrit] politics and puppets Some critters have narrower boundaries than I do. If a situation does us damage, we need to know about it. Not just hazardous chemicals (celastic, MEK, acetone, fumes, nicotine---the latter having killed off many nightclub puppeteers before their time), but AT&T's current effort to change the neutrality of the internet (currently under discussion in the Congress & the Senate) (NOT a hoax)---after all, puptcrit is possible because of the internet. I learned in gradeschool that many citizens prefer to stick their heads in the sand, and many puppet shows attempt to change that. Politicians have been portrayed in puppet form, and the shows reflected a spectrum of political views, same as in the Sunday funnies. ALAN COOK -----Original Message----- From: puptcrit-request-AT-lists.driftline.org Sent: Thu, 25 May 2006 10:16:53 -0700 To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Subject: puptcrit Digest, Vol 19, Issue 40 Send puptcrit mailing list submissions to puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to puptcrit-request-AT-lists.driftline.org You can reach the person managing the list at puptcrit-owner-AT-lists.driftline.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of puptcrit digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: ARTICLE: Coffee Filters and Paper Mache (Sandy Barton) 2. Stray Puppet Parts (Was Coffee Filter Papers) (Kathleen David) 3. Re: Personality Test...no, no, a good one.... (Susan Wall Kronenberg) 4. Re: ARTICLE: Coffee Filters and Paper Mache (Mathieu Ren?) 5. AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH - see it! (Emmy Bean) 6. Re: AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH - see it! (Gregory Ballora) 7. Re: AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH - see it! (Les Lamborn) 8. Re: AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH - see it! (John Bell) 9. Re: AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH - see it! (Bruce Chesse) 10. Memorial Punch - Croton, NY (Fred Greenspan) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 08:21:43 -0400 From: Sandy Barton <sandbar-AT-wowway.com> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] ARTICLE: Coffee Filters and Paper Mache To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <4475A157.6010906-AT-wowway.com> Mathieu, I have one of those dehydrators to make jerky, fruit leather, etc. I've used that instead of the oven to speed dry. Have you every tried one of those? It's been very handy to have around and the family is happy that I'm not taking up the oven with puppets not food. Few things upset a family more than finding puppet or prop parts in the oven. Sandy <>< SDG Mathieu Ren? wrote: >, or speed-dry it in the oven. If you do this in the oven, >use a low temoperature, amnd make sure your piece is away from the heating >elements. TEst the final stiffness only when the piece has completely >cooled, because a hot paper mache project is usually much more flexible (and >painful). > > > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 09:09:13 -0400 From: Kathleen David <kathodavid-AT-mac.com> Subject: [Puptcrit] Stray Puppet Parts (Was Coffee Filter Papers) To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <2DEA0F81-7A01-4289-B6B1-02D0194602C6-AT-mac.com> Sandy- Early in my career as a builder my mother became use to opening up the oven and finding strange objects within. Which usually followed with her finding me and informing me that if I wanted dinner then I was to remove said objects. My husband and children have suffer through random puppet limbs and heads and other body parts being strewn all over the living room as I am in the last stages of put them together. Then there is my box of parts. Puppet things that didn't quite work but I know I'll find a use for them later. My husband really dislikes that box. He says it just weirds him out to see what looks like some sort of grand puppet CSI episode with a serial puppet killer. Kath ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 10:03:06 -0400 From: Susan Wall Kronenberg <susan-AT-carouselpuppets.com> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Personality Test...no, no, a good one.... To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20060525100140.019e03e0-AT-carouselpuppets.com> You're right. It is a good one. I'm an Encouraging Inventor - which makes sense for a puppeteer. :-) Susan At 07:58 AM 5/25/2006, you wrote: >OK I normally dont condone these things and get annoyed when people >e-pass them around but this one is particularly good and actually >worthwhile...give it a try.......http://personaldna.com/tests.php >.....and Ill promise not to send anymore > >D. >_______________________________________________ >List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org >Admin interface: >http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org >Archives: http://www.driftline.org ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 10:45:35 -0400 From: Mathieu Ren? <creaturiste-AT-magma.ca> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] ARTICLE: Coffee Filters and Paper Mache To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org> Message-ID: <000a01c68009$e30bcc20$1834f3c7-AT-critter1> reply-type=original Thanks for the suggstion, Sandy. I would love to try one of these dehydrators someday. I love to use my oven, and since I live alone, I get to bake whatever I want in there... If I ever get a family, I hope they all can appreciate the fun of a puppet staring at them from the oven... Mathieu Ren? Cr?aturiste Marionnettes, Masques, Etcetera... Puppets, Masks, Etcetera... www.creaturiste.com creaturiste-AT-magma.ca (514) 274-8027 ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 10:05:19 -0400 From: "Emmy Bean" <beansome-AT-gmail.com> Subject: [Puptcrit] AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH - see it! To: beansome-AT-gmail.com Message-ID: <c6efe1950605250705h699521cbp888f138109a1fdad-AT-mail.gmail.com> Hi everybody- sorry for the mass email. I saw an amazing and scary film last night - AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH - because MoveOn.org told me to, and by gum, they were right. Everyone needs to see it; especially this weekend, especially if you're in NYC, it will boost the numbers for the film's opening weekend and increase their chances of being distributed farther and wider. Go see it. Please. It's about global warming and climate change, you can see the trailer and read more here: http://political.moveon.org/seethetruth/?id=7766-6897633-bWizZ8uvrLUrYmhR76VCwA&t=4 It's hugely important, and hugely effective, and you might even like Al Gore just a smidge better after you do. He puts on a good show. ' Love to you all, Emmy Bean ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 08:15:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Gregory Ballora <gregballora-AT-sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH - see it! To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <20060525151528.62667.qmail-AT-web82704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Emmy, Please don't take this the wrong way, but in my opinion, This is the wrong place to post this sort of informatioon. Again, it is not Puppet related. If we ask people like Mark "Cahebay" to not post information about gun control laws, it seems we should stick to the rule, regardless of our own political/pilosophical/religious beliefs. Granted, you are talking about a film, which is Art, and thus somewhat related.... I am curious what others here think, since, as Mark once pointed out, I am not a moderator. Regards Greg --- Emmy Bean <beansome-AT-gmail.com> wrote: > Hi everybody- > sorry for the mass email. I saw an amazing and scary > film last night - AN > INCONVENIENT TRUTH - because MoveOn.org told me to, > and by gum, they were > right. Everyone needs to see it; especially this > weekend, especially if > you're in NYC, it will boost the numbers for the > film's opening weekend and > increase their chances of being distributed farther > and wider. > Go see it. Please. It's about global warming and > climate change, you can see > the trailer and read more here: > > http://political.moveon.org/seethetruth/?id=7766-6897633-bWizZ8uvrLUrYmhR76VCwA&t=4 > > > It's hugely important, and hugely effective, and you > might even like Al Gore > just a smidge better after you do. He puts on a good > show. > ' > > Love to you all, > > Emmy Bean > _______________________________________________ > List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org > Admin interface: > http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org > Archives: http://www.driftline.org > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 11:28:25 -0400 From: "Les Lamborn" <llamborn-AT-rbc.org> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH - see it! To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org> Message-ID: <35A39221B39F43438675D8CC8A63F5C4F54B5F-AT-rbcmail.rbc.org> If it ain't puppet related then it doesn't belong here. The film is not puppet related and thus it goes to a forum where discussions on political/pilosophical/religious beliefs take place. Regards Les -----Original Message----- From: puptcrit-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org [mailto:puptcrit-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org] On Behalf Of Gregory Ballora Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:15 AM To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH - see it! Emmy, Please don't take this the wrong way, but in my opinion, This is the wrong place to post this sort of informatioon. Again, it is not Puppet related. If we ask people like Mark "Cahebay" to not post information about gun control laws, it seems we should stick to the rule, regardless of our own political/pilosophical/religious beliefs. Granted, you are talking about a film, which is Art, and thus somewhat related.... I am curious what others here think, since, as Mark once pointed out, I am not a moderator. Regards Greg --- Emmy Bean <beansome-AT-gmail.com> wrote: > Hi everybody- > sorry for the mass email. I saw an amazing and scary > film last night - AN > INCONVENIENT TRUTH - because MoveOn.org told me to, > and by gum, they were > right. Everyone needs to see it; especially this > weekend, especially if > you're in NYC, it will boost the numbers for the > film's opening weekend and > increase their chances of being distributed farther > and wider. > Go see it. Please. It's about global warming and > climate change, you can see > the trailer and read more here: > > http://political.moveon.org/seethetruth/?id=7766-6897633-bWizZ8uvrLUrYmh R76VCwA&t=4 > > > It's hugely important, and hugely effective, and you > might even like Al Gore > just a smidge better after you do. He puts on a good > show. > ' > > Love to you all, > > Emmy Bean > _______________________________________________ > List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org > Admin interface: > http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org > Archives: http://www.driftline.org > _______________________________________________ List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Admin interface: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org Archives: http://www.driftline.org ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 11:38:19 -0400 From: "John Bell" <John_Bell-AT-emerson.edu> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH - see it! To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org> Message-ID: <926B4A8D55661047B1353EC03E69CE2D0A8E81DA-AT-mail.emerson.edu> Thinking of Greg's comments to Emmy's message: good; let's talk about puppet theater. Haven't there been a lot of puppet shows recently about climate change, weather, and the environment? All Species Day parades, educational puppet theater, Muppets, Heart of the Beast Theater, Arm of the Sea Theater, Bread and Puppet's The Uprising of the Beast, and Greenpeace spectacles? Are puppets and masks somehow better fitted to discuss such huge issues, rather than actor-based dramas? Are current shows about the environment somehow related to traditional uses of puppets to evoke the spirits of nature (Green Man in the European tradition, animal and spirit masks in most world traditions)? Does the Gore film use animation? It's interesting to think of animation (digital, analog, stop-action, motion capture, CGI) as a development of puppet theater, and picture performance (telling a story with still images) as a development of bankelsang, cantastoria, wayang beber, and par vacano traditions. jbell great small works -----Original Message----- From: puptcrit-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org on behalf of Gregory Ballora Sent: Thu 5/25/2006 11:15 AM To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Cc: Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH - see it! Emmy, Please don't take this the wrong way, but in my opinion, This is the wrong place to post this sort of informatioon. Again, it is not Puppet related. If we ask people like Mark "Cahebay" to not post information about gun control laws, it seems we should stick to the rule, regardless of our own political/pilosophical/religious beliefs. Granted, you are talking about a film, which is Art, and thus somewhat related.... I am curious what others here think, since, as Mark once pointed out, I am not a moderator. Regards Greg --- Emmy Bean <beansome-AT-gmail.com> wrote: > Hi everybody- > sorry for the mass email. I saw an amazing and scary > film last night - AN > INCONVENIENT TRUTH - because MoveOn.org told me to, > and by gum, they were > right. Everyone needs to see it; especially this > weekend, especially if > you're in NYC, it will boost the numbers for the > film's opening weekend and > increase their chances of being distributed farther > and wider. > Go see it. Please. It's about global warming and > climate change, you can see > the trailer and read more here: > > http://political.moveon.org/seethetruth/?id=7766-6897633-bWizZ8uvrLUrYmhR76VCwA&t=4 > > > It's hugely important, and hugely effective, and you > might even like Al Gore > just a smidge better after you do. He puts on a good > show. > ' > > Love to you all, > > Emmy Bean > _______________________________________________ > List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org > Admin interface: > http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org > Archives: http://www.driftline.org > _______________________________________________ List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Admin interface: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org Archives: http://www.driftline.org ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 10:03:55 -0700 From: Bruce Chesse <bchesse-AT-imagina.com> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH - see it! To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <a06210203c09b86d1f98a-AT-[198.107.16.194]> Deja Vu! .....Deja Vu.....Deja Vu Ahhhhhhh Brings back the memories of Festivals at Tulane, 1974.....Kent State, 1979..... & Emory U -AT- Atlanta 1982. Tulane with everyone in a overly large auditorium watching Nixon resign on a console television sitting dwarfed on a bare stage. As the glowing animated picture of him made his farewell up from behind the console arose a puppet of Nixon in red, white and blue waving a flag and mouthing the words from the TV. The puppeteer hidden behind I think was Carrol Spinny or Steve Hansen. The conservative wing of the P of A walked out outraged. "This wasn't puppetry" as was the condemnation of Whilim Waroonies Dadaesque puppet show using some balloons as women's breasts Kent State when Richard Bay had to leave early for alluding to the Kent State killings when he did his Potpourri opus mocking muppets, spongees and yours truly, I thought it was hilarious,especially when I remembered the taxi driver who took us to the campus spending the entire trip blasting hippies and emphasizing that "they got what they deserved". The atmosphere there was filled with " bad vibes" and will be still. Emory U where The Underground Railway and the Heart of the Beast made their first appearances at any Festival and were accused of politicizing the Festival. The Railway presented an amazing anti war piece in shadows using for a vehicle Stravinski's Firebird. At the general meeting it was suggested by older staid members that "political statements had no place in the puppet theater" Do we always have to be so self absorbed? Isn't it a goal of puppetry to hold a "mirror up to nature"?. Too bad Gore didn't use puppets. I think I'll go to see the movie first chance. Thanks for bringing it up Emmy and thank you Mr Bell, as always, most grateful for your comments. Bruce K. Chess? Rabble Rouser and old fashioned Liberal > Thinking of Greg's comments to Emmy's message: >good; let's talk about puppet theater. Haven't >there been a lot of puppet shows recently about >climate change, weather, and the environment? >All Species Day parades, educational puppet >theater, Muppets, Heart of the Beast Theater, >Arm of the Sea Theater, Bread and Puppet's The >Uprising of the Beast, and Greenpeace >spectacles? Are puppets and masks somehow >better fitted to discuss such huge issues, >rather than actor-based dramas? Are current >shows about the environment somehow related to >traditional uses of puppets to evoke the spirits >of nature (Green Man in the European tradition, >animal and spirit masks in most world >traditions)? > Does the Gore film use animation? It's >interesting to think of animation (digital, >analog, stop-action, motion capture, CGI) as a >development of puppet theater, and picture >performance (telling a story with still images) >as a development of bankelsang, cantastoria, >wayang beber, and par vacano traditions. > > >jbell >great small works > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: puptcrit-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org on behalf of Gregory Ballora > Sent: Thu 5/25/2006 11:15 AM > To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org > Cc: > Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH - see it! > > > > Emmy, > Please don't take this the wrong way, but in my > opinion, This is the wrong place to post this sort of > informatioon. Again, it is not Puppet related. If we > ask people like Mark "Cahebay" to not post information > about gun control laws, it seems we should stick to > the rule, regardless of our own > political/pilosophical/religious beliefs. > > Granted, you are talking about a film, which is Art, > and thus somewhat related.... > > I am curious what others here think, since, as Mark > once pointed out, I am not a moderator. > > Regards > > Greg > > --- Emmy Bean <beansome-AT-gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi everybody- > > sorry for the mass email. I saw an amazing and scary > > film last night - AN > > INCONVENIENT TRUTH - because MoveOn.org told me to, > > and by gum, they were > > right. Everyone needs to see it; especially this > > weekend, especially if > > you're in NYC, it will boost the numbers for the > > film's opening weekend and > > increase their chances of being distributed farther > > and wider. > > Go see it. Please. It's about global warming and > > climate change, you can see > > the trailer and read more here: > > > > > > http://political.moveon.org/seethetruth/?id=7766-6897633-bWizZ8uvrLUrYmhR76VCwA&t=4 > > > > > > It's hugely important, and hugely effective, and you > > might even like Al Gore > > just a smidge better after you do. He puts on a good > > show. > > ' > > > > Love to you all, > > > > Emmy Bean > > _______________________________________________ > > List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org > > Admin interface: > > > http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org > > Archives: http://www.driftline.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org > Admin interface: >http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org > Archives: http://www.driftline.org > > > >_______________________________________________ >List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org >Admin interface: >http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org >Archives: http://www.driftline.org ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 13:16:44 -0400 From: Fred Greenspan <greenspan-AT-earthlink.net> Subject: [Puptcrit] Memorial Punch - Croton, NY To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <67915f637238602d230a2a4e90fe4f15-AT-earthlink.net> Saturday May 27 - Monday May 29 (Memorial Day Weekend): Three performances each day of the Punch & Judy Variety Show performed by Prof. Fred Greenspan, with Bruce Robbins as bottler; part of the Animals & Acrobats Event, Van Cortlandt Manor, Croton-on-Hudson, New York. Admission will be charged for the overall event. Info: 914-271-8981. Fred Greenspan - Traditional Puppeteer http://www.traditionalpuppetry.com ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Admin interface: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org Archives: http://www.driftline.org End of puptcrit Digest, Vol 19, Issue 40 **************************************** _______________________________________________ List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Admin interface: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org Archives: http://www.driftline.org
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