Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 13:21:00 -0400
To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Changing treads or worlds


Subject line was Ecology/Wayang, AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH, Cultural 
Differences

On May 30, 2006, at 8:37 AM, Liz Evans wrote:

>  I tried to branch a second thread from the Wayang post to getting 
> others to discuss shows that they may have
> produced or are producing about social/eco change in some manner and 
> it was completely ignored.
  There are many reasons that a thread doesn't get picked up. Often it 
is because it doesn't stand out enough against the rest of the material 
in the post in relative importance or interest, or it seems like a 
rhetorical question, or there is not much interest in the thread, or 
the timing, or, or, or...  Often when these threads go on in a manner 
that doesn't interest me I glance at them and then use the delete 
button. A possible new thread would go into the virtual ash bin. If a 
new thread is important to you I would recommend that you post it 
separately as a new thread. No guarantee that it will be picked up, but 
it stands a better chance than being part of another post.
   Personally I have nearly zero interest in this type of show as I find 
them to be often more sermon than show. I don't mind being challenged 
or made to think. but I do mind being told what to think or how. I am 
offended by a "show" that is all black and white in its thinking and 
presentation: an "either you are with us or you are a demon" attitude. 
I could go on, but I don't think this position really interests many on 
the list and I would only end up writing a sermon of the kind that I 
would be preaching about. Basically it is this, I am not a pig to be 
led by a ring in the nose to some trough of thought. Entertain me with 
a good show that also makes me think and perhaps even points me in a 
direction of thought, but I am capable of forming my own thoughts and 
conclusions. Sometimes it turns out that as I grow I find I as wrong or 
I need to change my position, but I am not afraid to be wrong or to 
change my position if or when my opinion changes.
   BTW, most of the shows I present are classic tales that have a strong 
moral message. I believe that they are, in a way, planting seeds of 
change on an individual level that produce social change on the larger 
level. But the most important thing in producing the show is to present 
an entertaining story.

>  Not that I mind that directly, sometimes a thread just doesn't take 
> off, but instead it did
> seem that many folks were more interested in about talking about a 
> movie than about their work.
And what is wrong with that? However, it seemed to me that there was 
less talk about the actual movie than there was about how to present an 
idea or position, so wasn't it really about how they work or would like 
to work?

Just my opinion

Christopher

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