File puptcrit/puptcrit.0606, message 537


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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:43:05 -0400
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Eye Mechanics update


Hi Bud.
Glad to see we have another Vent puppetmaker on the list.

I wish I received an order for making one! (a puppet, not a puppetmaker)
I can't afford to make one on my own time and money, as IO have too many 
things to try!

Years ago, I made two test vent heads, which turned out ok, considering they 
were miniature, activated by strings without a control rod, and the paper 
machre was warped.

But in preparation for when I do make a full-sized figure with my new 
skills,
I would love to see a sketch of your eye mechanic!
Feel free to send!

I love your Punch Puppet on your site!
He looks great!
Celastic head?  Can you say indestructible?
Appropriate for a Punch, to say the least!
Are his hands fully made of fabric, or si there foam involved?

THanks for any pointers!



Mathieu René Créaturiste
Marionnettes, Masques, Etcetera...
Puppets, Masks, Etcetera...
www.creaturiste.com
creaturiste-AT-magma.ca
(514) 274-8027
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bud Wertheim" <bwertheim-AT-hvc.rr.com>
To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Eye Mechanics update


>I have made several Vent figures using an upside down "T" with a thumb ring
> so that I know where the eyes are at all times. This mechanism also allows
> me to move the eyes to the right when my thumb moves right and to the left
> when my thumb moves left.
> If you would like a sketch of my design I'll be glad to email you a 
> drawing.
> You can see my vent figure ' Horatio on my website, www.budsyard.com He's 
> in
> the Puppet section and in the Harp section seated at one of my harps. I'm
> only doing local gigs now as I approach my 80th year but I'm still active 
> in
> the studio working on scupture commissions.
>
> Bud
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: puptcrit-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org
> [mailto:puptcrit-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org]On Behalf Of Les Lamborn
> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 2:19 PM
> To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org
> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Eye Mechanics update
>
>
>
>
> Mathieu
>  I seem to re-call a puppet company in Chicago Coleman puppets or some
> group which did a workshop on making your own springs.  They used piano
> wire, I don't know any more about the wire than that.  They made a gig 
> which
> had a few nails strategically placed to tighten the wire as it was wound
> around a hand crank which was made out of quarter inch hard steel with a
> hole drilled in it to accept the piano wire to begin the winding process.
> Here is a web site which may help with rigging the self-centering eyes:
> http://www.alstevens.com/ventriloquism/onefinger.html and
> http://www.alstevens.com/ventriloquism/fred.html There are many variations
> on the mechanics.
>  Les
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: puptcrit-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org
> [mailto:puptcrit-bounces-AT-lists.driftline.org] On Behalf Of Mathieu René
> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 8:03 AM
> To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org
> Subject: [Puptcrit] Eye Mechanics update
>
> I have no access to small subtle springs, so I am wondering how to make 
> the
> eyes stay at middle position. Right now, the default position is when the
> eyes look up, because of the weight of the eyepiece(which is two eyes
> attached to a thin board).
> I tried using a small square of sponge around the trigger, to act as a 360
> degree spring, but it was not firm enough, and anyway, it would get 
> damaged
> pretty quick and be too bulky. The other way was to make the eyes tigher
> against the orbits, but friction will eventually make them loose again.
>
> An elastic cord? but where would I attach it? The obvious spot would be
> between the eyes, but I need to make it relatively easy to replace. Right
> now, the system has to be separated for me to modify each part (trigger 
> made
> of stiff wire, nail as a pivot, the eye piece, and the eye's axis (which
> will be glued to the head's thickness).
> I wish I knew how to install the self-centering system around the area of
> the trigger, so that I can fiddle with it when I want to.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions, please?
> Thanks!
>
> And yes, I will post a few pictures (on my blog) when I have one of the
> current version of the mechanic. The one picture I have is from several
> hours ago, a different approach.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mathieu René Créaturiste
> Marionnettes, Masques, Etcetera...
> Puppets, Masks, Etcetera...
> www.creaturiste.com
> creaturiste-AT-magma.ca
> (514) 274-8027
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