From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mathieu_Ren=E9?= <creaturiste-AT-magma.ca>
To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org>
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 19:25:02 -0400
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] How much should a 17 inch marionette weigh?


Hi Anne. I have only strung the head and shoulders for now, on a mock 
controller, until I can have access to the bandsaw. This will be next week.
But the moves are already very smooth and surprisingly agile, especially for 
the neck. I dared make a double-joint neck!

I had a lot of help from Fred here, who told me a few pointers for making 
the head work better by displacing the shoulder strings. The puppeteers on 
the film also suggested changing the three head strings position. I now have 
two in the back, and one on the forehead.

When my new hands will be finished (sculpting them out of dowels looking 
good!), I will make other parts for my mock controller, and test the arms 
and legs.


I see what you mean about heft, as the previous version of the body was too 
lightweight and moved at the slightest breath of the pupepteer, or the 
slightest gust of wind.
Now it is in-between changes. the PVC legs and arms work well, but look bad 
with the Apoxie Sculpt added to it to form the joints. They work very well, 
like bone on bone,  but look awful.
I'm making wooden arms and legs with thongue and groove hinges tommorow.
These will be my first of this type, but not my first attempt. Now that I 
feel I have understood the principles enough, I think I can do it!
I need these puppets to look great even in the nude, as I will use them as 
demos for future customers. Good for the portfolio too! And a great deal of 
it is about pride.





Mathieu René Créaturiste
Marionnettes, Masques, Etcetera...
Puppets, Masks, Etcetera...
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anne Schaefer" <anne-AT-tanglewoodmarionettes.com>
To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org>
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] How much should a 17 inch marionette weigh?


> Mathieu,
>
> Have you had a chance to string it up yet?  Chances are, once you're at
> this point, a lot of the weight questions will answer themselves.  If
> anything, I would suspect that it would be difficult to make a 17"
> marionette too heavy -- a puppet of this size made out of solid wood
> sounds about right to me! -- but I have a "heavy hand" when it comes to
> manipulation, so I prefer a marionette with some heft, especially in
> the feet and hands.
>
> So, string it as soon as you can, if you haven't already.
>
> Anne
>
>
>
>
>> On Jul 10, 2006, at 1:09 AM, Mathieu René wrote:
>>
>>> I'm however worried a bit about weight, especially since I am
>>> replaceing all the PVC tubing with wood dowels, for a better look (I
>>> wanna be proud of this) and weight uniformity.
>>>
>>> I wonder if anybody has an idea of how much a 17 inch marionette
>>> should weigh at the very least, and then at the very most? I'm talking
>>> about control, comfort and even ergonomics here.
>>>
>>
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