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From: "Alan Cook" <alangregorycook-AT-msn.com>
To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 04:21:07 GMT
Subject: [Puptcrit] Chinese puppet images in Santa Barbara computer photo


I just checked the L>A>TIMES web page.

This weekend was the FIRST new Saturday date ADVANCE issue of the Times for Sunday, hence the Date July 16---and the image of the puppets is in "China's Visual Awakening" by Suzanne Muchnic---the work is titled "Forbidden City". On MY msntv sytem, the picture was slow to download, but DID come up. You will probably get quicker results.

In the process of checking this out, on the Times' CALENDAR section for today, there is an article about me and COPA, with a photo of yous truly (looking half awake---which I was, having just returned from San Francisco and Lettie Schubert's Memorial in June) shown with Rand Bohn's puppet Richard Nixon (which appeared in PETER RABBIT as Farmer MacGregor. Gee, I almost missed seeing this article . It was written a month ago, waiting for a slow news day.

My usual spies who alert me to such things are still in Missouri where they went to the Midwest Puppetfest.

ALAN COOK  


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Today's Topics:

   1. Grendl and Craig (NANCYSTAUB-AT-aol.com)
   2. Re: Dumpster Diving for Puppet Making (La Vie)
   3. Re: puptcrit Digest, Vol 21, Issue 22 (Alan Cook)
   4. Going to hell (Alan Cook)
   5. Puppets and The Inquisition (nwpuppet)
   6. Re: You are all goin' to hell (Fall, Brigid)
   7. Re: You are all goin' to hell (Mathieu Ren?)
   8. More GRENDEL reviews (Alan Cook)
   9. weird & cool videos (GAzPuppets-AT-aol.com)
  10. Re: More GRENDEL reviews (Jimsan777-AT-aol.com)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 13:24:49 EDT
From: NANCYSTAUB-AT-aol.com
Subject: [Puptcrit] Grendl and Craig
To: puptcrit-driftline.org-AT-lists.driftline.org
Cc: hannetw-AT-attglobal.net, henryk.jurkowski1-AT-neostrada.pl,
	eileenblumenthal-AT-earthlink.net
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It occurred to me that the moving scenery in Taymor's Grendel is one more 
example of Craig influence. I wrote an article suggesting Julie's Lion King 
realizes Craig's theories: puppets, masked actors, dancers, music together in one 
production that was published in The Puppetry Yearbook, Volume 5. Now her work 
includes moving scenery, too.

Nancy Staub


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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 10:59:17 -0700
From: La Vie <danvie-AT-communityartsworkshop.com>
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Dumpster Diving for Puppet Making
To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org>
Message-ID: <20060715175847.A2B6E1BB60-AT-che.dreamhost.com>

Mathieu -

though I have a long history of dumpstering and have built
entire shows exclusively from found materials, another approach
is to walk through the front door and ask for scrap up front.
Companies are often happy to keep stuff out of the landfill, 
especially for 'family-friendly' causes. 

A government-funded agency in Vancouver called the Materials
Exchange maintains a database to match materials with re-users.
I keep my list of 'wants' with them and receive regular calls.
A recent success was two TONS of coroplast on pallettes, 
delivered, no charge.

Another company in town specializes in 'sourcing' clean,
colourful industrial scrap that is garnered and resold for
children's crafts.  A reliable source will provide regular
materials for years to come.

The consumer recycling stream is truly marginal compared
to the macrocosm of industrial waste products.  There's
unbelieveable amounts of waste out there.  Just grab
a yellow pages and start sourcing.

Dan Vie
Vancouver, B.C.

>Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 02:01:21 -0400
>From: Mathieu Ren? <creaturiste-AT-magma.ca>
>Subject: [Puptcrit] Dumpster Diving for Puppet Making
>To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org>
>Hi all. 
>
>I am a Dumpster Diver, and not affraid to say it. The police officers I 
>met tonight seemed to find it a bit weird, but who cares, if I'm having 
>fun and saving money without disturbing anyone?...

>I never hide what I'm doing, I do it in plain sight, I'm quiet and never 
>tresspass or dive in locked dumpsters.
>Plus, it's obvious by one look at my bicycle that I'm fully equipped to 
>pick stuff up.
>
>
>If more Dumpster divers are among the Puptcrit ranks, could you please 
>share some treasure hunting tips with me?
>I think it is so compatible with puppet making! Lots of the supplies (and 
>even tools) that people throw out are perfect for puppet making. Even for 
>accessories and sets!
>I seem to have a gift for finding wood, including fine dowels!
>


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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 18:38:49 GMT
From: "Alan Cook" <alangregorycook-AT-msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] puptcrit Digest, Vol 21, Issue 22
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Hi Michael-

I WISH (PRAY?) that Boogy Man Religion was a thing of the past, but we have "religious idiots" interfering in other peoples' lives on a regular basis.

Currently in the USA (land of freedom according to our fork-tongued President, who has actively divided our citizenry since he entered the White House as chief resident) he has tried to ban flag burning protests (not many since the 1960s, so hardly a big issue to even raise), violate the Geneva Accords re: prisoners, and "protect marriage" by banning gay marriage all in the name of religious values.

I had a landlord once who would NOT enter the house because it was full of idols, including some Sicilian knight puppets. Well, I didn't mind him staying outside where he belonged anyway.

I have seen the enemy and it is not us, its them....

ALAN COOK


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   1. Re: You are all goin' to hell (Michael Setzer)
   2. Re: You are all goin' to hell (BiersBlackwood-AT-aol.com)
   3. Massachusetts Filmmaker Request--rod puppets (Elizabeth Freeman)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 13:30:01 -0700
From: Michael Setzer <honeypot_bear-AT-cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] You are all goin' to hell
To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org
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At 11:29 PM 7/13/06, you wrote:
>As if we didn't have enough problems already, figuring out how to make 
>marionette joints, cast puppet heads without toxic materials, or to make a 
>living in puppetry. While searching for information on Remo Bufano I came 
>across this item. Check it out and you may still be saved:

      I thought that stuff went out with The Inquisition! As the old joke 
goes, thank GOD I'm an atheist. I didn't know that people were that fearful 
and narrow minded any more.  



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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 16:45:56 EDT
From: BiersBlackwood-AT-aol.com
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] You are all goin' to hell
To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org
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> ? ? ? I thought that stuff went out with The Inquisition! As the old joke
> goes, thank GOD I'm an atheist. I didn't know that people were that fearful
> and narrow minded any more.?
> 
> 
Obviously, puppets wouldn't have bothered the Inquisition, as plenty of the 
shows the author thought were idolatrous were presented for Catholics.   I was 
just re-reading Bil Baird's chapter on Sicilian puppets, and the Manteo 
Family's theatre on Mulberry Street in NYC.   On the famous feast of San Gennaro in 
little Italy, the Manteos had a marionette saint float down on a fake cloud 
from a hole in the ceiling above the stage.   After blessing the audience and 
working a miracle (versus an erupting Mt Vesuvius), the saint was assumed into 
heaven again, via his strings.   It must have been a beautiful thing to see.   
I was interested in reading about the Manteos as my own puppets have been 
having costume work done on Bayard Street, not far from the theatre's former spot.

As crazy as that "demon" web page is, it does inadvertently drop in, if 
rather haphazardly, some very interesting nuggets of random puppetry history!

Sean K.


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 20:02:56 -0400
From: Elizabeth Freeman <LindenTree85-AT-comcast.net>
Subject: [Puptcrit] Massachusetts Filmmaker Request--rod puppets
To: BAGOP <bagop-AT-yahoogroups.com>,	Puptcrit
	<puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org>
Message-ID: <3CB11612-892C-4FCD-8D6C-82FDA81B5807-AT-comcast.net>

Rod puppets

Begin forwarded message:

From: Guy Wood <wood_gc-AT-yahoo.com>
Date: July 14, 2006 7:52:48 PM EDT
To: Elizabeth Freeman <LindenTree85-AT-comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Massachusetts Filmmaker Request

Just checking to make sure that I responded to your last e-mail. I'm  
looking for rod puppets, around 2 feet long.

Elizabeth Freeman <LindenTree85-AT-comcast.net> wrote:
I passed on your message to our Boston Guild members.    hand, rod,  
or marionettes?
On Jul 9, 2006, at 11:08 PM, Guy Wood wrote:

My name is Guy Wood and I'm making a feature film in Northeastern  
Massachusetts. There is a scene in the film that requires 2 puppets,  
a mother and father figure, as "drawn" by an infant. They are  
supposed to look asymmetric (one arm longer than the other, one leg  
shorter than the other, crooked spine, etc.) Do you know anyone that  
might be interested in helping me out with this? Thanks for your time.
Guy

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:05:05 GMT
From: "Alan Cook" <alangregorycook-AT-msn.com>
Subject: [Puptcrit] Going to hell
To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org
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In the 1960s my landdlord would not enter the house because "it was full of idols" including some big Sicilian Knights. He was a street preacher on L.A.'s skid row in his spare time. The only reason he owned the house was that his wife had bought it in one of her "insane moments", and she was living in an asylum when I was her husband's tenant. 

Seems to me a touch of hell was part of that preacher's life on earth.

At that same house, an art class from Immaculate Heart High or College in Hollywood came to visit to see my puppets.

My favorite memory of that house was seeing famed serigraph artist Sister Corita in full regulation habit, photographing some puppets sitting on the cover over my gas stove. I didn't have a lot of display space and had to make do.

Corita later went back to wearing civilian clothes and opened a studio in Boston. She also designed a "Love Stamp" for the US Post Office as part of her art production.

But while still at Immaculate Heart, she and Sister Magdalene Mary formed an amazing folk art collection which included many puppets. George Latshaw was one of many puppetry L.A. visitors I took to see that collection.  

One time Immaculate Heart College hosted an appearance of Bread & Puppets on campus. (Just once). Supposed to perform at campus lunch hour, the troupe showed up late and without any bread---they had spent too long at Santa Monica Beach that morning. 

Corita Kent was a great art teacher. And I don't think she went to hell. My landlord may have.

ALAN COOK



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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 11:23:36 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
From: nwpuppet <nwpuppet-AT-earthlink.net>
Subject: [Puptcrit] Puppets and The Inquisition
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Unfortunately, I don't think the Inquisition had much tolerence for puppet shows either.  Those fellows weren't exactly known for being kind.  I know that one playwright, who worked almost exclusively for a puppet theater, was tortured and killed towards the end of the Inquisition.  It is said that one of his shows was going on at the theater as he was being killed.  I continue research into this when I have the time and I think I can track down the scripts (I know of about 6 or 8).  It would be interesting to restage his shows.  His life story would be good for people to know about too.  Puppets often have trouble keeping their big mouths shut and that can be dangerous at times.  However, as discussed many times on puptcrit regarding puppets and politics, the commentary is also an important aspect of puppetry - just try not to get yourself arrested if the Inquisition resumes.  On that happy note...

Best regards to all you fellow puptcritters,

Dmitri Carter


Northwest Puppet Center
9123 - 15th Ave. NE
Seattle, WA 98115

http://www.nwpuppet.org

tel:  206 523 2579
fax:  206 523 8078


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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 16:14:30 -0400
From: "Fall, Brigid" <bfall-AT-TOLEDOLIBRARY.ORG>
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] You are all goin' to hell
To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org>
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      I thought that stuff went out with The Inquisition! As the old joke
goes, thank GOD I'm an atheist. I didn't know that people were that fearful
and narrow minded any more. 


Come work in a public library for a while.  Oh, the stories I could tell!
 
Brid in Toledo 
 

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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 17:11:56 -0400
From: Mathieu Ren? <creaturiste-AT-magma.ca>
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] You are all goin' to hell
To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org>
Message-ID: <002401c6a853$4eaf48a0$0a34f3c7-AT-critter1>
	reply-type=original

> I didn't know that people were that fearful
and narrow minded any more.
-------
>Come work in a public library for a while.  Oh, the stories I could tell!
>
>Brid in Toledo

The more I learn about peop^le, the more I see that they will surprise you 
with theie extremes: they can be extremely bacwards or more advanced than 
you would have thought possible.
Sadly, the majority I've met seem to fall closer to the first category.
I know how it sounds, but really look around, and you'll see what I mean

Most of the "backwards"  category has or had the potential to be 
exponentially better, but chose to settle with a life of narrow-mindedness, 
or even worse, or robot living.

My usual example of robot mindedness:

Me: is it possible to get a special exemption for that clause?
Clerk: No.
Me: How come?
Clerk: it's not possible.
Me: can you explain further?
Clerk: I don't know about this.
Me: Can I talk to someone who would know?
Clerk: you can't do that sir...
me: Why?
Clerk: because you can't!!!! (clerck becomoing more and more unstable and 
panicking)

The story, much much longer, brings me to departmentss after departments in 
different buildings, ends with me getting what I wanted after a hard day's 
labyrinth work. I ended up getting my info and solution at the first office 
I went to, with that same clerk. she just had to ask her "superior" who had 
his office door a few feet away.
Those people are not people, they are robots. They are much worse-off than 
slaves, because they put themselves in that situation and remain there by 
choice.

I have yet to see a robot-minded person in the puppet business. But I'm 
pretty sure they are lurking somewhere, or working besides our field. After 
all, we need clercks too.
I'm not saying all clerks ar like that (I used to be one, and not a robot 
either).
I'm just saying the standard clerk is like that.





Mathieu Ren? Cr?aturiste
Marionnettes, Masques, Etcetera...
Puppets, Masks, Etcetera...
www.creaturiste.com
creaturiste-AT-magma.ca
(514) 274-8027
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      I thought that stuff went out with The Inquisition! As the old joke
goes, thank GOD I'm an atheist. I didn't know that people were that fearful
and narrow minded any more.


Come work in a public library for a while.  Oh, the stories I could tell!

Brid in Toledo




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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 22:04:44 GMT
From: "Alan Cook" <alangregorycook-AT-msn.com>
Subject: [Puptcrit] More GRENDEL reviews
To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org
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The L.A. Times on Friday, July 14 (Calendar Section P.2) reports reviews of Grendel:

Philip Kennicott in Washington Post thought it "very Hollywood"

Fred Kirshnit in New York Sun
"all sizzle and no steak"

David Patrick Stearns in Philadelphia Inquirer    "...fearlessly R-rated pageant with so much to say and so many imaginative ways of saying it..."

My e-mail set up is too basic and limited to access the full reviews, but at least here is a taste.

ALAN COOK



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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 12:39:37 EDT
From: GAzPuppets-AT-aol.com
Subject: [Puptcrit] weird & cool videos
To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org
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Check these out:
 
 

_http://youtube.com/watch?v=CPvGszYIC0I&search=poodle%20aerobics%20_ 
(http://youtube.com/watch?v=CPvGszYIC0I&search=poodle%20aerobics%20) 
 
 
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LsMoUtBlDk&search=Guilherme%20Marcondes_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LsMoUtBlDk&search=Guilherme%20Marcondes) 



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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 13:04:18 EDT
From: Jimsan777-AT-aol.com
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] More GRENDEL reviews
To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org
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RE: Grendel, Obviously an LA Opera commissioned original, new, innovative 
work will not be accepted in New York as such.....(grin, grin) Jim Gamble


Philip Kennicott in Washington Post thought it "very Hollywood"

Fred Kirshnit in New York Sun
"all sizzle and no steak"

David Patrick Stearns in Philadelphia Inquirer? ? "...fearlessly R-rated 
pageant with so much to say and so many imaginative ways of saying it..."


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