Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:05:03 -0500 From: "Vincent Anthony" <vanthony-AT-puppet.org> To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] puptcrit Digest, Vol 28, Issue 37 Thank you Kathleen!!!! -----Original Message----- From: puptcrit-request-AT-lists.driftline.org [mailto:puptcrit-request-AT-lists.driftline.org] Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 10:05 AM To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Subject: puptcrit Digest, Vol 28, Issue 37 Send puptcrit mailing list submissions to puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to puptcrit-request-AT-lists.driftline.org You can reach the person managing the list at puptcrit-owner-AT-lists.driftline.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of puptcrit digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: puptcrit Digest, Vol 28, Issue 35 (Kathleen David) 2. Re: The Early Show on CBS TV, 7-9 a.m. (BNathanson-AT-aol.com) 3. Re: The Early Show on CBS TV, 7-9 a.m. (Greg Ballora) 4. More clay smoothing tips (Mathieu Ren?) 5. Re: More clay smoothing tips (Greg Ballora) 6. Re: More clay smoothing tips (Mathieu Ren?) 7. Skin-So-Soft (PAUL EIDE) 8. Re: Skin-So-Soft (Greg Ballora) 9. Crepe hair from nylon straps (Mathieu Ren?) 10. Re: The Old Trout Puppet Workshop videos (Mary Horsley) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:18:22 -0500 From: Kathleen David <kathodavid-AT-mac.com> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] puptcrit Digest, Vol 28, Issue 35 To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <14EEF64C-89E1-44FE-A71D-9B597CDC48D5-AT-mac.com> Vince- I promote the Center for Puppetry Arts everywhere I go. And I know that some people who have come into Atlanta for DragonCon have made a special trip to see the Center on my enthusiastic "sell" and none of them have been disappointed with the visit. Kathleen O'Shea David On Feb 23, 2007, at 6:37 PM, Vincent Anthony wrote: > Thanks for your sympathy Alan, re CBS fieldtrip news! > > The Center for Puppetry Arts was thrilled to get two seconds of > exposure! > > Vince > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:02:36 EST From: BNathanson-AT-aol.com Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] The Early Show on CBS TV, 7-9 a.m. To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <be1.f7e0a1d.3310f6bc-AT-aol.com> Elise and I also extend our sympathies to Vince, Susan & the rest of the hard workers at the Center on the lousy coverage by CBS. Alan C., speaking about Anna Nicole Smith, that wacky story takes place where - Florida. The crazy, diaper-wearing astronaut - where was she headed - to Florida. Check on any crazy story happening in the U.S., and chances are it's happening in Florida. Bob Nathanson ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:10:07 -0800 From: Greg Ballora <gregballora-AT-sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] The Early Show on CBS TV, 7-9 a.m. To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <b31dd64e1e009aaf966d8039cb122b2d-AT-sbcglobal.net> > Alan C., speaking about > Anna Nicole Smith, that wacky story takes place where - Florida. The > crazy, > diaper-wearing astronaut - where was she headed - to Florida. Check > on any > crazy story happening in the U.S., and chances are it's happening in > Florida. > > Bob Nathanson > > Yeah, so why do Californians get all the bad rap? I think you Floridians are exporting nuts. Next time, keep the governor's family at home! Greg Ballora ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 23:29:21 -0500 From: Mathieu Ren? <creaturiste-AT-magma.ca> Subject: [Puptcrit] More clay smoothing tips To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org> Message-ID: <001c01c757cc$5c48ac80$6d1f70cf-AT-critter1> my collegue, also new to working with plastalina (oil-based clay) gave me an even better ttrick than any I have tried yet, for smoothimng Chavant NSP. Someone in the special effects field told him that for Chavant, the usual /smoothing agents are: lighter fluid, turpentine, Goof-Off, water, and believe it or not, Skin-so-Soft. Yes folks, that stinky body oil sold exclusively by Avon. I had my doubts, until he showed me, and then I tried. Yikes. It's almost like an instant mirror shine. Directly from the raking stage, using a finger and a dab of skin-so-soft for rubbing, the sculpt is flawlessly smooth in seconds. I would have immediately ordered some, but the smell is very strong for me, it grabs at my throat quickly, and I need to cough. Darn useless perfumes! So I studied the feeling of this oil, trying to find a similarily textures oil in my memory banks. Johnson's Baby Oil! So I went and got some, and tried it. It's much better than heavy mineral oil (which is still good, but requires patience), but it's nowhere as fast acting as the skin-so-soft. Does anybody here have connections in the Animation Film or maquette-making industries? Could you get more smoothing tips from the oil-based clay pros? I really don't want to smooth a sculpt with lighter fluid using my fingers, and the fumes are not nice either for any of the other options mentionned before in this post. Different oil-based clays have different reactions to different solvents. Like Roma plastalina can be smoothed with alcohol, while Chavant NSP produces a dust film that needs to be cleaned. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:43:23 -0800 From: Greg Ballora <gregballora-AT-sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] More clay smoothing tips To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <81bec04801b853a10bcfdae184949bb4-AT-sbcglobal.net> You aren't the only one who doesn't like the smell of Skin-so-soft. It is also recognized as an excellent insect repellent, and it smells a hell of a lot better than DEET. On Feb 23, 2007, at 8:29 PM, Mathieu Ren? wrote: > my collegue, also new to working with plastalina (oil-based clay) gave > me an even better ttrick than any I have tried yet, for smoothimng > Chavant NSP. > > Someone in the special effects field told him that for Chavant, the > usual /smoothing agents are: > lighter fluid, turpentine, Goof-Off, water, and believe it or not, > Skin-so-Soft. > > Yes folks, that stinky body oil sold exclusively by Avon. > I had my doubts, until he showed me, and then I tried. Yikes. It's > almost like an instant mirror shine. > Directly from the raking stage, using a finger and a dab of > skin-so-soft for rubbing, the sculpt is flawlessly smooth in seconds. > I would have immediately ordered some, but the smell is very strong > for me, it grabs at my throat quickly, and I need to cough. Darn > useless perfumes! So I studied the feeling of this oil, trying to > find a similarily textures oil in my memory banks. Johnson's Baby Oil! > So I went and got some, and tried it. It's much better than heavy > mineral oil (which is still good, but requires patience), but it's > nowhere as fast acting as the skin-so-soft. > > Does anybody here have connections in the Animation Film or > maquette-making industries? > Could you get more smoothing tips from the oil-based clay pros? > I really don't want to smooth a sculpt with lighter fluid using my > fingers, and the fumes are not nice either for any of the other > options mentionned before in this post. > > Different oil-based clays have different reactions to different > solvents. Like Roma plastalina can be smoothed with alcohol, while > Chavant NSP produces a dust film that needs to be cleaned. > > _______________________________________________ > List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org > Admin interface: > http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org > Archives: http://www.driftline.org > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 00:08:45 -0500 From: Mathieu Ren? <creaturiste-AT-magma.ca> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] More clay smoothing tips To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org> Message-ID: <002001c757d1$dd96d6e0$6d1f70cf-AT-critter1> reply-type=original You aren't the only one who doesn't like the smell of Skin-so-soft. It is also recognized as an excellent insect repellent, and it smells a hell of a lot better than DEET. Greg --------------- H Greg. I'm thankfull I'm not very susceptible, cause it took me a while to realise it might have been a way to aompare me to a mosquito... LoL Skin-So-Soft does not seem to work as an insect repellant for everybody. Must be body chemistry differences. I would know about that. Once in my life, and only once, I smelled a perfume that actually did not make me choke, and even more startling, it actually acted like a pefume is supposed to, according to myth, to seduce someone! The startling thing is that the girl was nowhere near attractive according to my tastes at the time... Thankfully, she left my bedroom relatively quickly, or otherwise I might have said something ridiculously cheesy.If you're wondering what a stranger girl was doing in my bedroom, those were the college days, with roommates, and she was a visitor, and my room was like an attraction to see for first time visitors (first exhibit: the weird art guy). so... perfumes are nasty stuff, especially when they work like they were supposed to. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Ballora" <gregballora-AT-sbcglobal.net> To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] More clay smoothing tips > You aren't the only one who doesn't like the smell of Skin-so-soft. It > is also recognized as an excellent insect repellent, and it smells a > hell of a lot better than DEET. > On Feb 23, 2007, at 8:29 PM, Mathieu Ren? wrote: > >> my collegue, also new to working with plastalina (oil-based clay) gave >> me an even better ttrick than any I have tried yet, for smoothimng >> Chavant NSP. >> >> Someone in the special effects field told him that for Chavant, the >> usual /smoothing agents are: >> lighter fluid, turpentine, Goof-Off, water, and believe it or not, >> Skin-so-Soft. >> >> Yes folks, that stinky body oil sold exclusively by Avon. >> I had my doubts, until he showed me, and then I tried. Yikes. It's >> almost like an instant mirror shine. >> Directly from the raking stage, using a finger and a dab of >> skin-so-soft for rubbing, the sculpt is flawlessly smooth in seconds. >> I would have immediately ordered some, but the smell is very strong >> for me, it grabs at my throat quickly, and I need to cough. Darn >> useless perfumes! So I studied the feeling of this oil, trying to >> find a similarily textures oil in my memory banks. Johnson's Baby Oil! >> So I went and got some, and tried it. It's much better than heavy >> mineral oil (which is still good, but requires patience), but it's >> nowhere as fast acting as the skin-so-soft. >> >> Does anybody here have connections in the Animation Film or >> maquette-making industries? >> Could you get more smoothing tips from the oil-based clay pros? >> I really don't want to smooth a sculpt with lighter fluid using my >> fingers, and the fumes are not nice either for any of the other >> options mentionned before in this post. >> >> Different oil-based clays have different reactions to different >> solvents. Like Roma plastalina can be smoothed with alcohol, while >> Chavant NSP produces a dust film that needs to be cleaned. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org >> Admin interface: >> http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org >> Archives: http://www.driftline.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org > Admin interface: > http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org > Archives: http://www.driftline.org > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 00:22:13 -0600 From: PAUL EIDE <peide-AT-qwest.net> Subject: [Puptcrit] Skin-So-Soft To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <B60E01B9-BF19-4AD2-AEB5-F2B0E66C1769-AT-qwest.net> Years ago my mother had an Avon lady who came to the house once a week. They had become good friends, liked to visit, and my mother always felt that she should buy a few things. A few things, every week. So she had drawers full of Avon products, including several bottles of Skin-So-Soft. MANY bottles of Skin-So-Soft. In 1991 I took a camping trip down the Alaska highway with my two brothers, and we brought along a couple bottles of the stuff because there were supposed to be big hungry insects in the Alaska wilderness, and Skin-So-Soft was reputed to be a good insect repellent, which it turned out to be. But our favorite use for it was starting campfires. Get a little flame going, stand back, and squirt a stream of SSS on the surrounding logs. The fire would come alive. Don't remember if we ever confessed to our mother what we had used her Avon products for. Paul Eide On Feb 23, 2007, at 10:29 PM, Mathieu Ren? wrote: > my collegue, also new to working with plastalina (oil-based clay) > gave me an even better ttrick than any I have tried yet, for > smoothimng Chavant NSP. > > Someone in the special effects field told him that for Chavant, the > usual /smoothing agents are: > lighter fluid, turpentine, Goof-Off, water, and believe it or not, > Skin-so-Soft. > > Yes folks, that stinky body oil sold exclusively by Avon. > I had my doubts, until he showed me, and then I tried. Yikes. It's > almost like an instant mirror shine. > Directly from the raking stage, using a finger and a dab of skin-so- > soft for rubbing, the sculpt is flawlessly smooth in seconds. I > would have immediately ordered some, but the smell is very strong > for me, it grabs at my throat quickly, and I need to cough. Darn > useless perfumes! So I studied the feeling of this oil, trying to > find a similarily textures oil in my memory banks. Johnson's Baby > Oil! So I went and got some, and tried it. It's much better than > heavy mineral oil (which is still good, but requires patience), but > it's nowhere as fast acting as the skin-so-soft. > > Does anybody here have connections in the Animation Film or > maquette-making industries? > Could you get more smoothing tips from the oil-based clay pros? > I really don't want to smooth a sculpt with lighter fluid using my > fingers, and the fumes are not nice either for any of the other > options mentionned before in this post. > > Different oil-based clays have different reactions to different > solvents. Like Roma plastalina can be smoothed with alcohol, while > Chavant NSP produces a dust film that needs to be cleaned. > > _______________________________________________ > List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org > Admin interface: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit- > driftline.org > Archives: http://www.driftline.org > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 22:27:45 -0800 From: Greg Ballora <gregballora-AT-sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Skin-So-Soft To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <9d27fc340eb5aac4db08d2328a104ced-AT-sbcglobal.net> So, the new name should be Avon "Skin-So-Soft-and-Smelly-and Flammable". They might need a bigger bottle On Feb 23, 2007, at 10:22 PM, PAUL EIDE wrote: > Years ago my mother had an Avon lady who came to the house once a > week. They had become good friends, liked to visit, and my mother > always felt that she should buy a few things. A few things, every > week. So she had drawers full of Avon products, including several > bottles of Skin-So-Soft. MANY bottles of Skin-So-Soft. > In 1991 I took a camping trip down the Alaska highway with my two > brothers, and we brought along a couple bottles of the stuff because > there were supposed to be big hungry insects in the Alaska > wilderness, and Skin-So-Soft was reputed to be a good insect > repellent, which it turned out to be. > But our favorite use for it was starting campfires. Get a little > flame going, stand back, and squirt a stream of SSS on the > surrounding logs. The fire would come alive. Don't remember if we > ever confessed to our mother what we had used her Avon products for. > > > Paul Eide > > > On Feb 23, 2007, at 10:29 PM, Mathieu Ren? wrote: > >> my collegue, also new to working with plastalina (oil-based clay) >> gave me an even better ttrick than any I have tried yet, for >> smoothimng Chavant NSP. >> >> Someone in the special effects field told him that for Chavant, the >> usual /smoothing agents are: >> lighter fluid, turpentine, Goof-Off, water, and believe it or not, >> Skin-so-Soft. >> >> Yes folks, that stinky body oil sold exclusively by Avon. >> I had my doubts, until he showed me, and then I tried. Yikes. It's >> almost like an instant mirror shine. >> Directly from the raking stage, using a finger and a dab of skin-so- >> soft for rubbing, the sculpt is flawlessly smooth in seconds. I >> would have immediately ordered some, but the smell is very strong >> for me, it grabs at my throat quickly, and I need to cough. Darn >> useless perfumes! So I studied the feeling of this oil, trying to >> find a similarily textures oil in my memory banks. Johnson's Baby >> Oil! So I went and got some, and tried it. It's much better than >> heavy mineral oil (which is still good, but requires patience), but >> it's nowhere as fast acting as the skin-so-soft. >> >> Does anybody here have connections in the Animation Film or >> maquette-making industries? >> Could you get more smoothing tips from the oil-based clay pros? >> I really don't want to smooth a sculpt with lighter fluid using my >> fingers, and the fumes are not nice either for any of the other >> options mentionned before in this post. >> >> Different oil-based clays have different reactions to different >> solvents. Like Roma plastalina can be smoothed with alcohol, while >> Chavant NSP produces a dust film that needs to be cleaned. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org >> Admin interface: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit- >> driftline.org >> Archives: http://www.driftline.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org > Admin interface: > http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org > Archives: http://www.driftline.org > ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:45:30 -0500 From: Mathieu Ren? <creaturiste-AT-magma.ca> Subject: [Puptcrit] Crepe hair from nylon straps To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org> Message-ID: <000601c757df$755867c0$661a70cf-AT-critter1> People This is just me raving again about something that is probably too trivial for most. I am preparing a puppet for later this morning, when I will be giving a puppetmaking course. I know, it's last minute, but well, time sure flies with many projects on the go. While working nylon webbing (backpack strpas I recycled) to make strong hinges for joints, I unraveled one, and lo and behold! It's crepe hair! One step! Just pull one string, to unravel the whole thing. Leave a little bit untouched to serve as a root, and seal it with hot glue. The long string that you unraveled becomes another style of hair: geometric! Yup, the one I pulled was crepe, but as if it had been creped with a 90 degree angle giant iron! These crepe hair have just the right amount of sheen to make them look healty, but not enough to glare on stage, I think. They have a good weight and movement to them, too. These nylon straps are available in at least the primary colors. I've seen black, red, yellow, and light blue. I'm pretty sure I saw pink and orange too. Maybe they make rainbow nowadays? Pretty colorful, and in crepe, it must be wild! I have not yet had to buy any, they come from backpaks I find on the curb in the summer season, when parents throw them away to buy new ones. The only strong parts of cheap backpacks are the straps. If only they were better attached, the bags would last three times as long! Oh well, at least I get some of it, at the cost of a small load of washing. Should you want brand new straps (and a consistent supply of same style and color), some fabric stores sell those by the foot. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 10:06:03 -0500 From: Mary Horsley <mphorsley-AT-earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] The Old Trout Puppet Workshop videos To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Message-ID: <C06158CC-F0CA-4AF0-8D99-C5A33CEFABCE-AT-earthlink.net> format=flowed Totally awesome!!!!! Especially the Istvan one. This surely is the power of the Internet allowing people who live at distance to see such terrific theater.......worth a trip to Alberta! Mary On Feb 23, 2007, at 10:53 AM, mjm wrote: >> http://theoldtrouts.org/pages/istvan_video.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Admin interface: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org Archives: http://www.driftline.org End of puptcrit Digest, Vol 28, Issue 37 **************************************** _______________________________________________ List address: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org Admin interface: http://lists.driftline.org/listinfo.cgi/puptcrit-driftline.org Archives: http://www.driftline.org
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