From: corenste-AT-hunter.cuny.edu
To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org
Date: Thu,  3 May 2007 15:40:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] About moving Puptcrit


I thought the question was a more general discussion question about options for keeping the list going, not actually a head count of contributors. I'm sure if you ask us all to contribute, you'll find more takers.
claudia

---- Original message ----
>Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 15:14:03 -0400 (EDT)
>From: "malgosia askanas" <ma-AT-panix.com>  
>Subject: [Puptcrit] About moving Puptcrit  
>To: puptcrit-AT-driftline.org
>
>Dear All,
>
>So, I have now received 51 "yes" votes in the donations poll, and perhaps a 
>few more "yes" votes via email.  I would like to extend my thanks to all 
>the people who have expressed their willingness to make a contribution, 
>and also all those who wrote to me with expressions of support.
>
>As I already told you, I did find this outcome vastly disappointing.  One
>funny - but perhaps not so surprising - thing about it is that among those
>who are willing to contribute financially are all those who also contribute
>the most to making this list worthwhile and special.  Their invaluable gifts 
>- of memories, experiences, knowledge, judgement, analysis, synthesis,
>observation, historic sense, technical know-how, and on and on - make this 
>list into the wonderful resource that it has become.  It is because of them
>that I regard the effort of running this list worth continuing, and the 
>technical problems that this poses worth solving.
>
>With 50 contributions, I would be able to pay for a VPS server for 1 year.
>This is quite short of my original plan, which - very over-optimistically,
>as it turns out - assumed that I might get something like 200 contributions,
>which would pay for 4 years of a server.  If I can only get enough money to 
>carry us for 1 year, I have to figure out if I could make up the extra funds 
>by using this server for other purposes on which I am now spending separate 
>moneys. If I decide that such a consolidation would make sense, then I will 
>ask you for the actual donations, and will post to the list all the payment 
>details  - how to pay by PayPal, credit-card or check.
>
>I have also followed up a bit on Dave Homsher's suggestion concerning 
>freelists.org.  The say that they do have occasional blacklisting problems, 
>but not (yet?) with major ISPs such as AOL or Comcast.  This means that they
>might be a better solution than what we have at present, but they are still
>running on a shared mail server and have to contend with the problems that 
>this entails.  I am not convinced that it is worthwhile to move the list from
>one shared mail server to another - but maybe it is....  In brief, I am
>going to give all this a bit of additional thought and research, and let you 
>know what emerges out of it.
>
>
>-m
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