File puptcrit/puptcrit.0708, message 170


Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 11:56:33 -0700
To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org
From: The Independent Eye <eye-AT-independenteye.org>
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Subj: Re: fwd: Ernie's Eyes


Dear Howard-

	To help put your remarks in context, it'd be really helpful 
if you could direct us to some information about your own work - any 
website, videos, photos or articles available?  I've come to this 
list only recently and know you only as "Howard."

-Conrad


Dear Everyone-

	For chrissake let's not get into the issues of the proper 
tonality of posts here, or whether Howard's a brilliant truth-teller 
or an addled rhinoceros, or whether the list is a "safe" place to 
post.  We've all been through that defensive-offensive tango on other 
lists - and if you haven't, take it from me you don't want to.   Ask 
the list moderator to decide what's out of bounds, and if some people 
offend you, ignore'em.

	The death of any listserv starts when it itself becomes the 
main object of focus, as if we were at a Constitutional Convention to 
determine the future of the world.  To me, there's no genuine purpose 
to vituperative sarcasm except to show off or to vent, and there's no 
point in defending against it - once you've been spit on, the best 
you can do is wipe it off.  But then that's the Quaker half of me 
talking (the other half is something else again).

	I do think it'd be a worthy function of Puptcrit to be a 
place to request honest feedback on one's own work or discussion of 
stuff in the public arena.  (And that doesn't have to be at the 
exclusion of info about papier mache.)  But that never ever works in 
a context of rants and attacks, and for some people that's just the 
way they relate to the rest of the world - nothing you can say to 
change it.

-Conrad


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