File puptcrit/puptcrit.0709, message 198


From: "Mark S. Segal" <segalpuppets-AT-comcast.net>
To: <puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org>
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:01:34 -0400
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] in defense of dental shows


Ma I am not exactly sure where you are going with this....
Would say that there are no absolutes....
If I made one (or tried to) then that was wrong...I think :)
However....in response........
You wrote......
> OK, so I've created an event of some sort - a wild flower suddenly
> sprung up in the middle of a city sidewalk - and if I understand you
> correctly, you would say that this involves a vision, but does not
> involve communication.  Right?

It would involve communication if you were there - reacting to it in some 
way being a part of its beong there....or as a conduit ..
so that an audience could perhaps relate to the situation or condition.


> In that case, I would say that there *is* something besides your
> vision/audience/communication triad.

You must be right because there has to be the originator the performer the 
communicator.

  Whatever it is that I am doing
> - instead of communicating - when I create for the passers-by the
> experience of encountering the flower, is an example of a "something
> else" that does not fall into your triad.   Every creator of parks or
> public gardens, and many other kinds of artist besides, does that
> "something else" -


Is that true? - Was talking about the plastic arts....performance arts... 
but suppose it can be for others as well. Does not a designer of a park or a 
building or a habitation of some sort try to communicate something? Design 
something that will have a reaction? Even if it is subtle? That will create 
a feeling of something the designer wishes to impart? Is that not a 
communication?
It could be that we are just playing with the nuance of the meanings of 
words...

Would suppose that there can not be a one size fits all kind of thing here 
and do believe that there is an "art" to everything....something beyond 
skill alone.

take even the street performers that act as "human
> sculptures", just standing immobile in the street, covered with
> metallic (or non-metallic) paint.  They are, by the same token, not
> engaged in communicating - they are just creating an experience for
> the passers-by.  Am I wrong?

I would agree about them creating a momentary experience - their skill has 
to be admired. Are they engaged in communicating something? I am not sure 
however they are not all the same and you will relate to one differently 
then the other, why??????

Mark 

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