From: "Alan Cook" <alangregorycook-AT-msn.com>
To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 23:30:41 GMT
Subject: [Puptcrit] PUPPET EXHIBIT PHOTOS


For some odd reason you have to start with

http://math.fullerton.edu

then click on CSUF HOME

which takes you to today's homecoming events at California State University Fullerton. Then click on to 

A WORLD OF PUPPETS: Expression of Culture

to see 3 color photos with campus curator Justin Stewart and some of the puppets on exhibit, plus info.

I hope Christopher Hudert in particular will be sufficiently enticed to investigate.

When I went to http://anthro.fullerton.edu/ I did NOT get this same info.

Best to all, 
ALAN COOK


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   1. Is planting a flower a form of art? (Alan Cook)
   2. Re: Across the Universe (Deborah Hunt)
   3. Re: Creating shadow puppets using polycarbonate
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   4. Emmy award history (BNathanson-AT-aol.com)
   5. Re: "Art for Art's sake" (LSnyder262-AT-aol.com)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:42:40 GMT
From: "Alan Cook" <alangregorycook-AT-msn.com>
Subject: [Puptcrit] Is planting a flower a form of art?
To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org
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Planting a flower can be a creative process---especially in terms of landscaping. I consider my front yard an art work in progress and get positive feedback from neighbors and wandering neighborhood cats--the later like the interactive aspects.
They add an artistic touch being delightful animated sculptures in their own right,

The yard once was all a slope of ivy, has been terraced with cement blocks which I see as a block and earth sculpture. 

Alan Cook




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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 06:52:25 -0300
From: "Deborah Hunt" <maskhunt-AT-gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Across the Universe
To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org
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Dear Stephen,
I guess and rejoice in the fact that some of us, even beating our
heads against some strange wall,  decide to say no. ......in times and
places that are so terribly insecure and corrupt (Puerto Rico)...and
yet..we still say no.....cheers to you ...and cheers of course to
Peter...
Deborah Hunt

On 9/14/07, Stephen Kaplin <skactw-AT-tiac.net> wrote:
> Bread and Puppet was not directly involved in the film, but it's an
> interesting story.
> Apparently the  producers of the Taymor movie contacted Bread and
> Puppet's director, Peter Schumann to ask permission to use his puppets,
> or have him make some for the film. He declined, saying something to
> the effect of "go make your own". The producers took this as permission
> to  crib,  so they then went off looking for puppet-makers that could
> make authentic- looking Bread and Puppet- type figures for them.  I
> was asked to build them some models, but turned the gig down  ( what
> they wanted was a sort of B & P-lite, ie- the rough-hewn style without
> the hard-biting politics)
> They finally managed to find a well established puppet designer (who
> shall remain nameless) who built them the puppets the puppets they
> wanted.
> Some time later they were shooting scenes in the streets of NYC with
> these pseudo-B&P puppets and Peter's son, Max, (who lives and works in
> NYC) happened to pass by. He wondered what the hell B&P was doing in
> the middle of a big film shoot. Asking around he was able figure it
> out. The Theatre was irate at being ripped off so. The producers were
> contrite and offered Peter a check for $25,000, which he refused to
> take. The movie was made anyway and the rest is history.
>
> That's the story as far as I know. I wonder if any one else cares to
> add to this.
>
> There was a large (fairly positive) review in today's NY Times with a
> big photo of some of these puppets. They certainly do look like
> straightfoward ripoffs of B&P's garbagemen characters and giant hands.
> But if you look closely, you realize that there is a lot of very un-B&P
> like detailing to their sculpting.
>
> Stephen
>
>
> On Sep 13, 2007, at 5:46 PM, Kathleen David wrote:
>
> > I haven't seen it yet but a fellow WGA writer did with a Q&A
> > afterward with Julie Taymore and he said it was wonderful.
> > Apparently you do have to like the Beatles to really enjoy it.
> >   I think Bread and Puppet was involved with this film because of
> > some of the stills I have seen and one of the trailer.
> > Does anyone know for sure?
> > Kath
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-- 
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Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 10:25:13 EDT
From: Springgoddess-AT-aol.com
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Creating shadow puppets using polycarbonate
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Greetings all,
 
Okay, once again I am on a puppet journey.  I am trying to create  shadow 
puppets and have researched on the internet for the best materials to use  for 
creation.  I've tried black card stock and office folders, but find  both too 
floppy in the end.  I need a material that doesn't require a  commercial piece 
of machinery to cut.  Does anyone have any  suggestions?  Thanks to all.
 
Michele  



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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:40:08 EDT
From: BNathanson-AT-aol.com
Subject: [Puptcrit] Emmy award history
To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org
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Hi Critters,
   I just read an interesting tidbit.   On the very first Emmy Awards, the 
Most Outstanding Television Personality went to Shirley Dinsdale (then age 20), 
for her ventriloquist act on The Judy Splinters Show.   Shirley passed away on 
May 9, 1999.

Bob Nathanson


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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:45:27 EDT
From: LSnyder262-AT-aol.com
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] "Art for Art's sake"
To: zenchops59-AT-yahoo.com, puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org
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In a message dated 9/15/07 12:30:31 AM, zenchops59-AT-yahoo.com writes:


> Many artists I spoke to in India and Indonesia would describe western 
> artists as being obsessed with novelty. They would find the notion of the lone 
> visionary artist inventing their own worlds to be foreign, uncomfortable 
> concept..... because they see themselves as being part of a continuum.,? of a body 
> of knowledge or culture that they share equally with the audience. Audiences 
> in some cases are OFFENDED by artists straying off the path of what is 
> expected, just as we would be unhappy to bite down on a Big Mac and find it was full 
> of peanut butter. ( No flak, please, you vegetarians.. ) Because these 
> artists feel they do not? "own " these stories, they see their role more like 
> tradesmen and less like? shamans. And they take pride in that, too........i.e., 
> how well they met other people's expectations.?? I found this attitude to be 
> really humbling for some reason.? Artists who'd rather be beloved by their 
> community than the sometimes chilly place
> intellectually/creatively advanced people can wind up in? in the west. No? 
> burning desire whatsoever for being famous or recognized beyond that of, say, 
> a good baker or barber.
> 
It sounds like what you're describing are interpreters of a particular artist 
or group of artists. A virtuoso violinist can be considered an artist in her 
own right, but when she's playing Mozart or Brahms, she doesn't go off on her 
own riff -- she plays it as it is written, which is what her conductor and her 
audience expect of her.

The same is true of actors. When a western audience goes to a production of 
MacBeth, they may accept some novelty in costuming, set design, lighting, even 
editing of the source material. But stray too far from Shakespeare's written 
words and the audience will probably balk.

Linda



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