From: Widerman-AT-aol.com Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:59:38 EDT To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Muppets I would normally not respond to this thread, but since my name was mentioned . . . In any art form, when a major artist like Henson comes along, it is impossible to ignore the influence. Brahms, understandably, had great difficulty in the wake of Beethoven, but sets a good example for perseverance. At first I did not understand it when my mentor said he could never limit himself to one form or style of Puppetry, but exploring all forms has proven most gratifying for me, and I now appreciate what he meant. Every artist is a prism through which art is seen a little differently. I believe one must copy with awareness, either for learning, satirizing or re imagining, Most importantly, be creative and enjoy the experience. -Steven-> In a message dated 7/31/2008 8:31:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, puppetpro-AT-aol.com writes: I'm not quite sure how this strand began... I think it was because Steve Widerman, a wonderful marionettist, posted something about the Muppet come back on You tube, is that right? Why do we argue about puppetual preferences when most of the world spends most of its time arguing about sports? Rolande -----Original Message----- From: The Puppetry Arts Theatre <info-AT-puppetryarts.org> To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org Sent: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:24 pm Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Muppets Oh good.. Finally something I can respond to!! It's been too long! Yeah me! I'm on the flip side of that. I really don't like string puppets. In fact, in all of my grants etc I write- "no strings attached" in my project descriptions. Pupcrit seems to huddle strings n punches on here- I rarely see any hand puppeteers. I think its bc we don't have time to reply- we are working. (Hahaha I made a funny)! Muppets have a wonderful design and style of hand puppets, but it's their structure- not design- that influences other hand puppets--- Why? b/c it works! What's that? I said IT WORKS! I think that the lure if you will of the muppet structure is bc its REAL -its tangible, the audience can relate to it, cuddle with it, its alive and creates a better relationship with an audience...with no strings attached. I find that its very easy to design and perform strings or punch n judy stuff when muppet style hand puppets are a bit more involved providing mo re animation and interaction-and THAT my puppet friends creates the whole relationship with audience thing I mentioned already. I am sure someone hovering over a stage of that play ---where the puppets are all little people and a human actor walks in their town n they tie him down, oh whats the name of that play everyone uses too much (Starts with a "G" right?) --and is barking mad about what I said, I know... But don't get your strings tied in a not. You gota also consider- today- for the most part-strings usually mean kids birthday parties and little darkrooms where kindergarteners visit on weekdays for $5 tickets. When hand puppetry pays a union actor $875 a day and making a hand puppet offers a min of $1600 on up. I think I'll stick with the green guy. ( now that was a play on words about kermit- a hand puppet and well, money, for those of you who didn't get it) Good times and will look for you all at the Emmet auditions! (that's a No String performance!) On 7/30/08 9:29 PM, "robertrogers-AT-robertrogerspuppets.com" <robertrogers-AT-robertrogerspuppets.com> wrote: > I have to be honest - and please don't be angry with me - I'm not a big > fan of the Muppets. In the early days, I loved seeing them on the Ed > Sullivan Show and the Jimmie Dean Show. I think that they were much more > inventive and daring back then. And I never bought into the Kermit/Miss > Piggy romance. It just didn't strike me as funny. > > Now, when I look at a site li ke Puppethub.com, I am frankly distressed by > all the Muppet clones that appear in the posted videos. It's as if there > is a large population of people who aspire to draw comic strips, and then > work in the exact style as Charles Shultz. > > There's more to puppetry than foam and ping pong balls. > > Robert Rogers > > _______________________________________________ > List address: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org > Admin interface: http://lists.puptcrit.org/mailman/listinfo/puptcrit > Archives: http://www.driftline.org _______________________________________________ List address: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org Admin interface: http://lists.puptcrit.org/mailman/listinfo/puptcrit Archives: http://www.driftline.org _______________________________________________ List address: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org Admin interface: http://lists.puptcrit.org/mailman/listinfo/puptcrit Archives: http://www.driftline.org **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. 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