Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:46:22 -0400 From: "Hobey Ford" <hobeyone-AT-gmail.com> To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] War story Just another thought. I have foound it useful to offer a free couple of shows to a local school with the understanding that I will be videoing the show and that it won't be the usual experience. I get permissions and all and then everybody knows that it will be a shoot, with camera men running around. They generally enjoy the context of the performance and have fun with it. On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Hobey Ford <hobeyone-AT-gmail.com> wrote: > I hate that and understand the frustration. The videographer who wants to > be part of the show. Photographers can be just as bad. But I almost always > agree to any videoing and photography but ask them not to jump into the show > with me. Often I will allow a vidoegrapher to shoot a little back stage. > They have been positive experiences on the whole and I have gotten amazing > footage and shots for the portfolio and positive press buzz.. It is the guy > who shows up unannounced and just jumps in there who get in the way and > irritate the audience and myself. On the whole I don't complain and take it > in stride along with the parent who allows their child to be aweful or the > load in from hell or the nazi school secretary who refuses to let me in to > the space till the last second even though its in the contract. I smile and > take their money and hope they have me back. It just not worth being > negative if you can help it, as work is hard enough to find. There are > places that I won't return to though, but I like to have the option. I > don't judge anyone who gets sore and lets them know it, I have just found > for myself that they usually take it wrong so why bother trying to educate > them and then not get invited back. I have made a deal with myself not to > take things personally either way because one day its roses and the next day > its #%*!#-AT-! Its work and more fun than most peoples' work and I want to > like it. > > > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:41 PM, The Independent Eye < > eye-AT-independenteye.org> wrote: > >> >Have you >> >ever had a videographer shoot over your shoulder while you are doing >> >your show? I mean come right up on the stage, in the middle of the >> >show, to get shots? >> >> Ah yes. In this case a news crew from a local tv station when we >> were touring a very intense, harrowing short play about family >> dysfunction & child abuse. Crew came in mid-show, walked all over >> the stage, and as soon as we started into an immediate discussion >> with the audience - an integral part of the show - poked at me to ask >> for an interview (no thank you, you sonofabitch). I decided >> mid-performance to continue without interruption, for the sake of the >> sponsor (a social agency) to have news footage. But it was an >> ulcerating experience. >> >> The only solution, when video is at all an issue, is to have a >> rock-solid understanding with everyone involved and some means of >> enforcement. A good videographer *sometimes* is aware of the >> strictures of a live performance, but above all they're wanting to do >> their job, and the better they are, the more likely they are to see >> that one fabulous shot they have to stand on your shoulders to get. >> We hired a videographer to do multiple performance shootings of a >> recent show, and every night I had to go through the same long >> dialogue about how it wasn't possible for her to walk back and forth >> between stage and audience. She was from a different world. >> >> Cheers- >> Conrad >> _______________________________________________ >> List address: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org >> Admin interface: http://lists.puptcrit.org/mailman/listinfo/puptcrit >> Archives: http://www.driftline.org >> > > _______________________________________________ List address: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org Admin interface: http://lists.puptcrit.org/mailman/listinfo/puptcrit Archives: http://www.driftline.org
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