File puptcrit/puptcrit.0811, message 101


Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 15:04:11 -0800
To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Bread & Puppet controversy


http://www.391.org/manifestos/cheapartmanifesto.htm
http://www.391.org/manifestos/cheapartmanifesto.htm
the above is the aforementioned
cheap art manifesto...


On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Mathieu René <creaturiste-AT-primus.ca> wrote:

> >>i work and live by the cheap art manifesto .written by bread & Puppets.
> >
> > peace.
> > r.
>
>
>
> I have the cheap art manifesto printed and displayed in my studio.
> It contains a lot of inspirational concepts. Some are idealistic.
> I don't see how someone can take it all litterally and apply it as-is,
> without compromise.
> If you really do, can you tell us how you manage?
>
> For instance, the manifesto seems to say that Art should be cheap and
> accessible, which I have nothing against. But should all art be made cheap
> or free? What does that tell to the artists who want to make a living at
> what they do best, and work hard at it? What does that say to the world,
> who
> obviously already thinks that Art is less valuable than other careers?
> It's wrong to think that way, as anyone with eyes can see that artists make
> the world interesting, they create variety, wonderful pleasing forms where
> function alone would not do.
> While artists may not save lives as immediately and as obviously as doctors
> or firefighters, they really do save lives everyday, with the inspiration
> and motivation and education Art can bring.
>
> My application of what I get from the manifesto is that there are many
> levels, types and applications of Art.
> Some of it can be given for free, some of it should be paid fairly. All of
> its teachings should be made available to those who need and want it.
>
> In an ideal world where people would be fair-minded and un-jealous, all
> careers would earn the same keep, and all would benefit from everyone's
> full
> involvement. Full blooming of everyone's potential and interests.
>
> We don't live in an ideal world.
> So we can work toward it, while still needing to adjust to the current
> reality.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Randy Ross" <gloreeeah-AT-gmail.com>
> To: <puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 3:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Bread & Puppet controversy
>
>
> >i work and live by the cheap art manifesto .written by bread & Puppets.
> >
> > peace.
> > r.
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Alan Cook <alangregorycook-AT-msn.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Gina, I am sorry to hear of your travails.
> >>
> >> What is not clear: B&P has often been "controvrsial" and I don't know if
> >> that was mentioned in preshow publicity. Someone expecting a standard
> >> kiddie
> >> show of fairy tales or puppet varieties might not be prepared for what
> >> they
> >> saw.
> >>
> >> It sounds like there may have been problems in communication with your
> >> local public BEFORE the show took place.
> >>
> >> It is often useful to "warn sensitive souls" that a specific theatre
> >> piece
> >> may be offensive to some, may not be suitable to those under age such &
> >> such, may be for "mature audiences", etc. etc etc.
> >> It is also a way of challenging an audience to decide if they are open
> to
> >> an alternate viewpoint on stage or not.
> >>
> >> The history of B&P  has certainly been colorful.
> >>
> >> When I saw them here in California at various years & locations, the
> >> audences knew why they wanted to see the performances. It does not sound
> >> like that was the case currently. While giving helpful advance
> >> information
> >> to ticket buyers is no guarantee that all individuals will pay
> attention,
> >> at
> >> least then, the shoe is on the other foot.
> >>
> >> Sometimes B&P could have behaved better. Years ago, they were scherduled
> >> to
> >> perform at Immaculate Heart College in Hollywood on the school LUNCH
> >> HOUR.
> >> They showed up an hour late, having spent far too much time at the beach
> >> in
> >> Santa Monica CA. They were NOT thinking about the needs of the audience.
> >> By
> >> the time they arrived on campus, half the audience had to leave to
> attend
> >> classes. The students were extremely disappointed, the show was well
> >> worth
> >> seeing, there was no bread baked nor served, no sense of apologies for
> >> showing up late. Not good PR for sure, and maybe a touch of arrogance
> and
> >> disdain similar to that of cult religions.
> >>
> >> It was painful for me, as an advocate for puppetry and an admirer of B&P
> >> to
> >> witness such disappointment.
> >>
> >> ALAN COOK
> >>
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> >
> > --
> > with love and affection
> > edith gloria hole
> > carnival sized cinnamon hearts puppet shows
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