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To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 19:57:01 GMT
Subject: [Puptcrit] A marionete is a marionette is a marionette


As long as the puppet is SUSPENDED, I think "marionette" will do just fine as a name for the type of puppet, as it already has for a rather long time.

And for Macy Balloons (and their derivatives) "upside down marionette" works for me. Bob Bromley's famous trapeze clown marionette was operated from below, by means of pullies which were above the actual puppet. All of Bob's other marionttes were operated in the cnventional mode.

Sometimes we worry  too much about unimportant things, at a time when there is plenty to really worry about.

ALAN COOK.


-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Barr
Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2008 10:24 AM
To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] you tube Hamlet

I think one can name our instruments anything we like.
Sisslian puppets, why not, but what do they call the style in Sicily?
Czech puppets, how do they call them in Prague.
Standardized names are for the PR people and mass market, but I name those
"Ghost" puppets of mine-- "Sergin2". Some of you have seen them. They have a
"motor" rod-- one that holds the weight of the puppet-- but instead of it
being in the head, it is in the back or top of the collarbone. That frees
the head to have 2 strings to allow a much more ethereal head movement--
which Eugene prefers-- yet retain the quick body locomotion with no
wiggles-- that I like. My years with my hands inside the hand or glove
puppets have tilted me towards a preference to fast movement.
cheers,
Steven R-B


On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Hobey Ford <hobeyone-AT-gmail.com> wrote:

> Sissilian marionettes?
>
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Steven Barr <lapuppet-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
> > These Rod in Head are the original marionettes- String Puppets. They
> later
> > put stings on the heads to get more subtle  head movements but it slowed
> the
> > overall walk--- and projected puppetry into the modern marionnette that
> is
> > very limited in its movements. The Rod in the head allows an immediate
> > movement-- and it is very cool. More primative but cool. The French call
> it
> > a marionnette a tringle  as opposed to marionnette a fils (string
> puppet). I
> > don't know if it should be named here in America so it doesn't become a
> > "type". Because it belongs to that Hybrid Family of Puppets which defy
> > labels and lean on invention and proto-type. I love this style of Puppet.
> > Check out the film trailer at: www.classicsinminiature.com
> > and see them used in a stylized film.
> > cool,
> > steven Ritz- Barr
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Mathieu Ren=EF=BF=BD <creaturiste-AT-primus.ca
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Very cool puppets, who made them?
> >>
> >> Cool movements! Who performed them?
> >>
> >> I love the wide movements of dances and chases!
> >> Makes me want to build this type of puppet.
> >> What's the official name of the rod-in-head with strings? For now, I
> heard
> >> a
> >> lot of people call them czech puppets, but it's probably a vague
> >> designation. Czechs must build all sorts of puppets!
> >>
> >> The performing possibilities and the sturdyness are very appealing to
> me.
> >>
> >> Cool shots.
> >> Were they filmed at the indoor carroussel on Water street in Brooklyn,
> >> almost under the bridge?
> >> I happened to walk there while on my trip last week-end. Cool place!
> >>
> >> I think I exceeded my daily usage quota of the word "cool".
> >> But I'm cool with that.
> >>
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> >
> > --
> > FAUST PuppenFilm by Steven Ritz-Barr
> > "This is a fascinating piece which uses the visual-music aspect of
> puppetry
> > to make images as puppet theatre can at it's best."
> > -Dr. Kathie Folie, Univ. of Cal, Santa Cruz Theatre Chair and Professor
> >
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> > Metropolitan Puppet Authority, Non-profit
> > www.lapuppet.com
> > www.classicsinminiature.com
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FAUST PuppenFilm by Steven Ritz-Barr
"This is a fascinating piece which uses the visual-music aspect of puppetry
to make images as puppet theatre can at it's best."
-Dr. Kathie Folie, Univ. of Cal, Santa Cruz Theatre Chair and Professor

Classics in Miniature, LLC
Metropolitan Puppet Authority, Non-profit
www.lapuppet.com
www.classicsinminiature.com
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