From: Michael Moynihan <mmoynihan-AT-wi.rr.com> To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:53:53 -0600 Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] ART OR NOT ART? So very many ways, I think it is a good question for everyone here who wants to discuss it. In the USA and elsewhere our economy is based on scarcity, accumulation, debt, private ownership, fear, force, exploitation... So a Gift Economy would be the opposite of what now burdens us. Plenty, dispersion (the gift must move), profit, common ownership, courage, peace, equality...? - m On Nov 18, 2008, at 6:06 AM, puppetpro-AT-aol.com wrote: > > Michael, > > This sounds wonderful -- wish I could have seen it. > > Based upon your experience, how might a gift economy change how we > live and act? > > > > Rolande > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Moynihan <mmoynihan-AT-wi.rr.com> > To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org > Sent: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 1:07 am > Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] ART OR NOT ART? > > > > > > > > > I encountered Hyde's THE GIFT in an issue of Stewert Brand's > CoEvolution Quarterly. > It led me to create a production based not on his words but on the > idea of how a gift economy might change how we live and act. It had a > live band, actors in full head masks playing characters who were also > represented by small rod puppets sometimes moving from the little > puppet actors in one scene to the masked actors in the next, and > sometimes the actors and the puppets and actors acting doing the same > scene simultaneously. The performers were multi racial and bilingual > mimes, dancers, musicians and singers. The mask/puppet designer/ > builder was dealing with Bipolar Disorder, several other in the > company had various forms of mental illness (I am obsessive > compulsive). The show had a free to the public outdoor summer run and > then was adapted to a large indoor auditorium. The indoor shows added > a large video screen with the small puppets plus animated sequences. > Big fun. > > - moynihan > > On Nov 17, 2008, at 8:35 AM, puppetpro-AT-aol.com wrote: > >> Excellent. I hadn't seen this piece, though I've read Hyde's >> 20Trickster book. Now I've got to read "The Gift"... >> >> >> >> an excerpt: >> >> >> >> >> >> In the course of writing =93The Gift,=94 Hyde underwent an intellectual >> transformation on this subject. He began the work believing there >> was =93an irreconcilable conflict=94 between gift exchange and the >> market; the enduring (if not necessarily the happy) artist was the >> one who most successfully fended off commercial demands. By the time >> he was finished, Hyde had come to a less-dogmatic conclusion. It was >> still true, he believed, that the marketplace could destroy an >> artist=92s gift, but it was equally true that the marketplace wasn=92t >> going anywhere; it had always existed, and it always would. The key >> was to find a good way to reconcile the two economies. >> >> >> >> >> ----Rolande >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message----- >> From: Michael Moynihan <mmoynihan-AT-wi.rr.com> >> To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org >> Sent: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 10:40 pm >> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] ART OR NOT ART? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/16/magazine/16hyde-t.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List address: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org >> Admin interface: http://lists.puptcrit.org/mailman/listinfo/puptcrit >> Archives: http://www.driftline.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List address: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org >> Admin interface: http://lists.puptcrit.org/mailman/listinfo/puptcrit >> Archives: http://www.driftline.org=0 > A > _______________________________________________ > List address: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org > Admin interface: http://lists.puptcrit.org/mailman/listinfo/puptcrit > Archives: http://www.driftline.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List address: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org > Admin interface: http://lists.puptcrit.org/mailman/listinfo/puptcrit > Archives: http://www.driftline.org _______________________________________________ List address: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org Admin interface: http://lists.puptcrit.org/mailman/listinfo/puptcrit Archives: http://www.driftline.org
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