From: Christopher Hudert <heyhoot-AT-mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:51:04 -0500 To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Gift Economy Seems to me that, in practice, a totally gift economy - like true communism - is most likely impossible. The theory is good, but leaves out several key components like greed, human nature, the need/desire to get ahead and/or improve your lot in life, fulfillment of true needs in a timely fashion, a geographically vast society, and so on. It should be noted that elements of a gift economy do exist in most societies. Anybody that is non-profit should know that. But as noted below, even the idea of a gift economy is a bit off the ideal as the expectation of reciprocal gifts, whether given to the giver or passed on to others, contradicts the idea that there is no explicit agreement for immediate or future exchange. You are expected to give as well as receive, it's just not set exactly what that giving is or to whom. Exceptions apply (like organ donation). For those interested, I've pasted below the first two paragraphs from the wikipedia entry, FWIW. For more info you can go to gifteconomy.com or gifteconomy.net, or google "gift economy" and you'll come up with lots of stuff. Most functional economies are based on some sort of supply and demand - the most basic element of economics. This even applies to art and puppet shows. If no one wants it, it won't be of much value (though that may change). If not much of it is available (limited supply - there is only one of you and/or your show) and lots of people want it (you/your show) it can command much money or goods in exchange. Other market influences (such as if they can afford it, even if they want it) also apply, but that is the root of the system most of us on this list work on. Christopher A gift economy is a social theory[1] in which goods and services are given without any explicit agreement for immediate or future quid pro quo. Typically, a gift economy occurs in a culture or subculture that emphasizes social or intangible rewards for solidarity and generosity: karma, honor, loyalty or other forms of gratitude.[citation needed] In some cases, simultaneous or recurring giving serves to circulate and redistribute valuables within a community. This can be considered a form of reciprocal altruism. Sometimes there is an implicit expectation of the return of comparable goods or services, political support, or the gift being later passed on to a third party. However, in what is considered to be in the true spirit of gift economics, many times giving is done without any expectation of reciprocity.[citation needed] The concept of a gift economy stands in contrast to a planned economy or a market or barter economy.[citation needed] In a planned economy, goods and services are distributed by explicit command and control rather than informal custom; in barter or market economies, an explicit quid pro quo =97 an exchange of money or some other commodity =97 is established before the transaction takes place. In practice, most human societies blend elements of all of these, in varying degrees. On Nov 18, 2008, at 1:24 PM, Michael Moynihan wrote: > The best understanding of a GIFT ECONOMY is to read Hyde's book. > (I also read his TRICKSTER book and have done several plays based upon > Trickster stories from around the world) > > There are many historical examples from around the world. > But here in the USA (where I live) there are mini gift economies that > we take for granted. > Blood Banks > Organ Donation _______________________________________________ List address: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org Admin interface: http://lists.puptcrit.org/mailman/listinfo/puptcrit Archives: http://www.driftline.org
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