Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:19:49 -0500
From: Mary Horsley <mphorsley-AT-earthlink.net>
To: <puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org>
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] The importance of storytellers


LOL, unlike greedy Americans who insist on building condos on the beaches so
they can have their view........not exactly smart!

Mary H. 


On 11/22/08 11:52 AM, "puppetpro-AT-aol.com" <puppetpro-AT-aol.com> wrote:

> After the 2004 Tsunami in the Indian Ocean, a news story came out about an
> ancient Paleolithic people in the Nicobar/Andaman Islands that survived the
> storm because of their ancient knowledge of the ocean -- transmitted by
> storytellers. When the ocean began to recede from the shore, the natives
> remembered the stories of this happening before (well over 1,000 years ago, I
> believe) and went to higher ground. While there was much damage and loss of
> life in the islands, this small band of natives survived.



They listened =A0to
> their storytellers, and remembered what to do.=A0




Rolande





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From: Michael Moynihan <mmoynihan-AT-wi.rr.com>
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Sent: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 7:09 pm
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit]
> Gift Economy








On Nov 21, 2008, at 1:57 PM, Ed Atkeson wrote:

> The
> thing that stuck in my head was the author said that before the
> mine came
> the most talented storyteller was the most important person
> on the
> island.

Demonstrates an example of one of the main points that led me to be
> 
interested in and pay very close attention to what Lewis Hyde wrote.

You
> refer to the 1981 building of the Bechtel Ok Tedi Mine, the  
largest mine in
> Papua New Guinea at that time. The mine waste was  
dumped directly in the Ok
> Tedi River after a dam, built by Bechtel,  
was destroyed in a land slide. And
> the end of the story you already  
know.

Despite the majority of apparently
> happy capitalist puppeteers, I do  
r
ecall reading here some commiserating
> why we USA puppeteer/ 
storytellers were often relegated to the kid's table at
> the performing  
arts thanksgiving feast.

An Gift interesting
> review:
http://southerncrossreview.org/4/schwartz.html

As to the Refrigerator
> biz in a gifty-ier, more human friendly  
economy, not much different from any
> biz endeavors.

Worker owned manufacturing? Consumer owned
> cooperative?
Refrigerators you cannot own, only use, so when you are done with
> it,  
it goes back to the manufacturer for rebuilding/recycling. Same with
> 
iPods, computers, cars, tools?

Cooperatives usually are cost effective and
> responsive to their owners.
Here in the heartland of the USA we have Ace
> Hardware, a cooperative  
that was created in 1924. Ocean Spray has been
> around for over 75  
years as an agricultural cooperative, owned by cranberry
> growers and  
grapefruit growers. Consumer owned power utilities cost an
> average of  
13% less than investor owned. And they can choose how the energy
> is  
generated.

Puppeteers' Cooperative: http://gis.net/~puppetco/

-
> moynihan
Why can't we all(cooperatively) get along?
And what IS so funny about
> peace, love and 
> understanding?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWdh7ERLb3E







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