Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:03:20 -0500
To: <puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org>
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Difficult workshops


If bringing the work is too much, Mathieu, do a powerpoint. Bring the disc
and show them......

Mary H. 


On 1/25/09 10:33 AM, "Mathieu René" <creaturiste-AT-primus.ca> wrote:

> Wow, I was hoping to get some feedback and stories, but this is beyond
> expectations!
> Thanks Alan, Liz, John, Mark, and Nancy for the different approcahes,
> advice, and insight.
> 
> I'm feeling much better now, knowing a few tings that can be done to prevent
> this kind of misunderstanding, or fix the situation if it ever occurs again.
> It was the only time I ever saw an entire group lack interest. It was rather
> deflating!
> No matter the attempts, the many techniques I shared, the suggestions
> specific to their work, they kept pretty close to indifference.  I now
> realize they probably needed proofs, something to justify the weird or
> primitive-looking approaches I was showing them.
> When the Negative Judgement is firm in the mind, there is no possibility for
> learning.
> 
> 
> I love Mark's way of treating a workshop like a performance.
> I never put it into words like this, although I see I always "played a
> role", without thinking about it.
> Now that I know about it, I can focus it more! Thanks Mark!
> 
> But in yesterday's case, I still don't see what I could have done different,
> knowing what I knew.
> The class just wasn't into it at all. Two of them said they would not have
> taken the class had they known what the content was: Experimental paper
> sculptures, non figurative. Two of them wanted a paper mache class. Which I
> would have been glad to teach on the spot, had I had my tools and supplies.
>> From now on, I'll always bring those to fall back on, as a "plan B".
> 
> But knowing what I think I know now, I could have done this:
> -could have brought my portfolio and other artists's works as proof of what
> can be done with the same techniques.
> -could have brought actual finished works, not just samples. I usually do,
> but for some reason, not this time. I won't make that mistake again!
> 
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> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Dudley" <john.dudley-AT-telepuppets.com>
> To: <puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:32 AM
> Subject: [Puptcrit] Difficult workshops
> 
> 
>> I can well appreciate what Alan is saying about workshops in the
>> 1960's but regrettably over the years times and attitudes have changed
>> considerably. We have Ipods and computer games to occupy our minds.
>> Anything that requires a bit of thought is BORING, especially if
>> challenged to do anything. Those who have a bit of money in their
>> pockets tend to go out and buy what they want or drive their parents
>> into the ground! Many youngsters used to have school clubs and
>> hobbies. Sport is one that appears to have survived.
>> 
>> I am sure it is the same in America with a lot of the young as it is
>> in the UK. It all starts in the home and how much encouragement is
>> given.
>> On television and in newspapers we see stories of youngsters shooting
>> randomly in the streets, gangs of under aged drinkers,
>> wandering the streets in the early hours of the morning and when asked
>> why they do it, the reply is nothing to do!
>> 
>> I feel sorry for many teachers who have an uphill job.
>> 
>> John
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