To: <puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org>
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:58:32 -0500
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Bettleheim- Uses of Enchantment


ok I don't agree with EVERTHING...but I did like that book and found it 
informative...sigh...is nothing original??
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan Cook" <alangregorycook-AT-msn.com>
To: <puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 12:37 PM
Subject: [Puptcrit] Bettleheim- Uses of Enchantment


A reminder- Bettleheim could be scary himself---and not in a productive way. 
>From his Chicago "clinic" he blamed autism on the child's mother causing 
much unnecessary pain in families, AND his "ideas about fairy tales" were 
basically swiped from others. My old Art History professor who knew many 
modern German expressionist artists and fled Hitler's Germany discussed 
those ideas with me around 1950-1..

We touched on this aspect of Bettleheim before on puptcrit.

ALAN COOK


-----Original Message-----
From: Puppet People
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 7:41 AM
To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Adapting Grimm's Fairy Tales...

I have a copy of Bettleheim and I of course agree with everything he
says...how do I get those PC parents and teachers to read it??? I'm with you
Louisiana it is!
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From: <puppetmaster-AT-puppetswithpizazz.com>
To: "Puptcrit" <puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Adapting Grimm's Fairy Tales...


I LOVE that quote! In "The Uses of Enchantment" Bettleheim says that the
purpose of the fairy tale is to teach children not that there are boogie men
out there (which children know instinctively), but that, even though you are
small, weak and disadvantaged, if you are honest, helpful and use the wits
God gave you, you can and will overcome and live happily ever after. And I
think I will move to Louisiana!  Nancy
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From: Anne Schaefer <anne-AT-tanglewoodmarionettes.com>

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:50:12
To: <puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org>
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Adapting Grimm's Fairy Tales...




On Jan 27, 2009, at 5:24 PM, HobgoblinH-AT-aol.com wrote:

> How grateful I am every day to live in backwards Louisiana, where
> my  puppets
> get killed, kill other puppets, and if called for, dance up and
> down on
> their bodies or toss them into the air. How lovely to live in a
> state in which
> monsters can eat peasants and crocodiles can eat sheep. I can put
> demons or
> angels in my plays, and no one cares.
> Sigh,
> Alice

A bit ago, I came across the following quote from C.S. Lewis:

=EF=BF=BDThose who say that children must not be frightened may mean two
things. They may mean (1) that we must not do anything likely to give
the child those haunting, disabling, pathological fears against which
ordinary courage is helpless: in fact, phobias. His mind must, if
possible, be kept clear of things he can=EF=BF=BDt bear to think of. Or they
may mean (2) that we must try to keep out of his mind the knowledge
that he is born into a world of death, violence, wounds, adventure,
heroism and cowardice, good and evil. If they mean the first I agree
with them: but not if they mean the second. The second would indeed be
to give children a false impression and feed them on escapism in the
bad sense. There is something ludicrous in the idea of so educating a
generation which is born to the =EF=BF=BD atomic bomb. Since it is so likely
that they will meet cruel enemies, let them at least have heard of
brave knights and heroic courage. Otherwise you are making their
destiny not brighter but darker=EF=BF=BD. - Clive S. Lewis, Of Other Worlds:
Essays and Stories (San Diego: Harvest Books, 2002), 31.

I haven't read the book (yet), but I found the above to be a very
poetic, and it mirrors some of my own thoughts on the subject.

And I'm envious that you enjoy such artistic freedom.  If I have to
tap dance around "But is it scary?" one more time, I think I might
snap :-)

- Anne
>
>
> In a message dated 1/27/2009 3:11:29 P.M. Central Standard Time,
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> Mark my  words: the more liberal the area, the greater your chance
> of getting
> hammered  if there is anything scary or violent.  Nancy
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