File puptcrit/puptcrit.0902, message 429


Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:47:47 -0500
From: Mary Horsley <mphorsley-AT-earthlink.net>
To: <puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org>
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Stimulus for a culture lacking in long term thinking


Basic Religious thought, no matter what religion you are........do onto
others as you would have them do onto you. My favorite scripture in the
Christian NT is "Love God, Love others".......there is no me in there.

Good discussion. Thanks.

Mary H. 


On 2/14/09 9:27 AM, "Hobey Ford" <hobeyone-AT-gmail.com> wrote:

> This Native elder told me years ago that when you invent or create
> something the ultimate outcome
> depends on your motive at the moment of conception.  If you are
> inventing a vehicle to serve the planet you will have one outcome. If
> you are building the vehicle to make money, it will smoke and pollute
> and need to be replaced in a certaimn number of years.  We are a
> culture who tends to do things for the money.  Look at the Danish
> culture where they believe in building things that will last and be of
> high quality.  At the end of the King Arthur grail legend where
> Parsival  Must ask the ailing  Grail King a question, "who does the
> Grail serve".  That is the question at hand.  Who does the cornucopia
> serve?  We can do all this amazing stuff but if we do it for "Me" or
> for the money then the Kingdom lays dormant and barren.  The Grail
> King will get over his illness and prosperity restored when the
> perfect fool asks the question and gets the correct answer.  The Grail
> serves us all, it is not for the few or the priveledged.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 8:14 AM,  <puppetpro-AT-aol.com> wrote:
>> My refrigerator broke yesterday. It's five years old. Those of you who are
>> appliance-aware understand that "built-in-obsolescence" has become part of
>> our culture. It started, I think, with the light bulb. Though light bulbs
>> were originally designed to burn for years and years, someone realized that
>> once everyone had one, the industry would be kaput. So, they began to make
>> them to burn out after a few hundred hours.
>> There was some sort of formula: If it costs enough, people will have it
>> repaired. If it costs less than that, people will buy another one.
>> 
>> 
>> Thus, we have huge amounts of things being tossed away. A consumer culture.
>> 
>> 
>> Puppetry -- and people -- have been caught up in this Romanesque feast.
>> 
>> But now, oops, we need to change! It is up to us, the people who can
>> introduce new ideas into the minds of audiences (the artists/poets) to do the
>> work of change.
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>> Rolande
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Creaturiste-AT-primus.ca <creaturiste-AT-primus.ca>
>> To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org
>> Sent: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 7:13 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Stimulus for National Endowment for the Arts
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>> I'd rather see the whole of human population reduced to Thumbelina's scale,
>> so that we can finally reduce our footprint on the planet.  Gimme that magic
>> button now and I'll push it.
>> 
>> Maybe the new constraints of what we could do in such small bodies in such a
>> big world, would slow our "progress" long enough for us to grow wise enough
>> t
>> o end the pattern of mindless and heartless parasitic leeching of the
>> earth's resources. Give the big globe a break!
>> 
>> I've had vague bad dreams of the collapse of civilisation all my life.
>> Somehow, that's not enough incentive to make me learn more concrete survival
>> techniques.
>> So I can imagine how easy it is for those who refuse to see the patterns, to
>> go back to sleep and dream the utopia that never was.
>> 
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