File puptcrit/puptcrit.0903, message 60


From: Monica Leo <goodfolk-AT-avalon.net>
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:08:11 -0600
To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] free shows - a different perspective


I wait for them to call me, and I don't do it for the exposure either.
Monica

On Mar 3, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Christopher Hudert wrote:

> Thanks Monica and Michael,
>
>    Do you ever approach the charity you do shows for, or do you always
> wait for them to call/ask you?
>
>   At this point we rarely do shows for individuals (ie birthday
> parties), so we would not benefit from a recommendation unless they
> recommended us to a paying presenter. That sort of negates much of the
> "exposure" angle that many of the events offer. What good does it do me
> to be exposed to people who I couldn't work for? It would be like
> taking an ad out during the Super Bowl - lots of exposure, but not
> likely to result in any jobs. Therefore, I need to do the "exposure"
> jobs because I want to, as much as or more than because the charity
> wants me to, because I am investing time, talent, and money (costs of
> getting there, etc.) in the "exposure."
>
> Christopher
>
> On Mar 3, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Monica Leo wrote:
>
>> I also do a few free shows each year (I don't have set number) for
>> organizations I believe in and want to support.  These organizations
>> (e.g. a group that mentors local kids and raises money to help their
>> mentees go to college) wouldn't have a budget for entertainment 
>> anyway,
>> so it's not taking anyone's work away.  I do tell them how much it
>> would cost if they hired me, and I also make it clear that I choose
>> what organizations I want to support this way.
>> Monica
>>
>>
>> On Mar 3, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Michael Dowell wrote:
>>
>>> In terms of free shows, I agree that it is a great feeling to give to
>>> charity. I think 1-2 free shows per year is reasonable.
>>> I do shows for my son's day care. Sometimes for free. Other times the
>>> director of the day care recommends me to a parent, so it's win-win
>>> -- the school gets a show and the puppets get paid.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>> Moodoo Puppets
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 3, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Christopher Hudert wrote:
>>>
>>>>    Hmm, not that I need validation or responses, but I find it
>>>> curious
>>>> that no one responded in any way to my previous post on free shows.
>>>> No
>>>> agreement or disagreements. Maybe it got lost in some new threads.
>>>> Personally, I'm a bit on the fence about this, so I had hoped to 
>>>> spur
>>>> further discussion on an alternate view. While I can agree with some
>>>> of
>>>> what previous posters said about exposure and such, I do see some
>>>> reasons to do free shows on occasion. I am beginning to see more
>>>> personal gain (though not necessarily monetary gain) in this. A
>>>> limited
>>>> amount of free shows gives to a worthy cause, gives back to the
>>>> community, and can promote the art which I practice. Maybe some of
>>>> this
>>>> will come back to me in time, either monetarily or in a time of 
>>>> need,
>>>> but that's not the main reason to do it. The reason to do it is
>>>> because
>>>> we should, or at least I feel I should, give within our abilities.
>>>> <clip>
>
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