From: Brad Shur <mr_utamaro-AT-hotmail.com> To: <puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org> Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:58:23 -0400 Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] 2d yield formula / Plush Steve You're totally right though, that fur nap/woodgrain etc makes it worthwhile to lay out everything in the same direction if you're dealing in a material where that's important, even if you don't get the most pieces out of your material. B. Shur > Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:22:40 -0700 > To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org > From: steve-AT-axtell.com > Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] 2d yield formula / Plush > > Excellent example Brad. It gets even more > complex when you have irregular patterns, not > just rectangles). Grain direction is another factor mentioned. > > I have designed some toys over the years and have > been to Toy Fair many times. I met some folks > from a toy company who had the lowest costs on > their plush animals. Once I was talking with > the production manager who wanted me to design > for them and they told me their secret to low > cost. We ignore the nap of the fur direction > which yields so much loss. We just figure out > how many little pieces can fit on a yard and > that's it. All our competition has to layout by > nap direction and their costs are much higher > because of the waste. I argued that the nap of > the fur is very much part of the design and can't > be ignored but it fell on deaf corporate ears. > > That reminds me.... I have lots of extra fur > scraps if anyone wants any. Email Robin at > order-AT-axtell.com just pay shipping. $8 for shipping a box of free scraps. > Ax > > > > At 10:36 PM 5/3/2009, you wrote: > > >That's good for a rough estimate, especially > >including the inevitablibity of messups, but in > >a lot of situations you can get the best results with a mixed tiling. > > > >For instance, with a 20" x 30" piece of > >material, and a 6" x 8" pattern, the best yield > >is a bit of a puzzle, with one row of 5 pieces > >with their 6" side facing the 30" edge, two rows > >turned the other way, and a piece turned > >perpendicular capping off those two rows. It's > >weird to try to explain, here's a picture > > > >www.sunrisepuppets.com/tiling.png > > > >The mixed orientation strategy gives you two > >more rectangles per piece than the best strategy > >with all your pattern pieces turned the same > >way, that can make a big difference if your > >material is expensive or you're making a lot of something. > > > >I can't really think of a good shortcut though, > >I do the same thing you do with cut outs, except > >I do it on the computer. So I save the time > >actually cutting out pieces, but I still have to > >shuffle them around, or at least visualize shuffling them in my head. > > > >B. Shur > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 02:38:22 +0000 > > > From: steve-AT-axtell.com > > > To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org > > > Subject: [Puptcrit] 2d yield formula > > > > > > Hope this helps. Here's what I do.... > > > > > > Length of material divided by length of > > pattern...and width of material by width of > > pattern. Determine how many fit... then > > multiply the two numbers (x and y pattern > > counts) to get yield in that layout. > > > > > > Compare with turning pattern 90 degrees. > > Length of material div by width of pattern and > > with of material by length of pattern. > > > > > > Choose the direction that yields more. Hope it helps. Ax > > > > > > Sent from my Windows Mobile=AE phone. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > List address: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org > > > Admin interface: http://lists.puptcrit.org/mailman/listinfo/puptcrit > > > Archives: http://www.driftline.org > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Hotmail=AE has a new way to see what's up with your friends. > >http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/WhatsNew?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_WhatsNew1_052009 > >_______________________________________________ > >List address: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org > >Admin interface: http://lists.puptcrit.org/mailman/listinfo/puptcrit > >Archives: http://www.driftline.org > > > Steve Axtell > Axtell Expressions, Inc. > http://www.axtell.com > **************************************** > Amazing Puppets & Magic > [] > > > The original content of this email or attachment is =A9 Axtell Expressions, Inc. > _______________________________________________ > List address: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org > Admin interface: http://lists.puptcrit.org/mailman/listinfo/puptcrit > Archives: http://www.driftline.org _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_BR_life_in_synch_052009 _______________________________________________ List address: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org Admin interface: http://lists.puptcrit.org/mailman/listinfo/puptcrit Archives: http://www.driftline.org
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