Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:19:24 -0700
To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org, puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org
From: Steve Axtell <steve-AT-axtell.com>
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Fiberglass / Glue question


Thanks Greg and Hobey!  Mike Brose also helped me 
off list.   I'll try them all and let you know what works best.


At 08:53 AM 7/30/2009, Gregory Ballora wrote:
>In general, I agree with Hobey, and yes, 3M 77 does work great for
>coating pool noodles and the like. Another direction to look for the
>fiberglass issue would be something like an autobody  primer. I have
>seen spray on versions of this, but I haven't tested it myself yet. I
>did notice they had a lot of it over at Legacy Effects (The old Stan
>Winston Studios) and I believe were spraying it over their cast parts
>and Bondo for paint adhesion. I can try to find out the brand if you
>need it.
>Greg
>On Jul 30, 2009, at 3:53 AM, Hobey Ford wrote:
>
> > My old stand by for uncooperative gluing surfaces has been mentioned
> > here before.  Coat the fiberglass with 3M spray foam adhesive and let
> > it set. then re-apply the glue.  You could use the 3m as the glue or
> > then recoat with the contact cement.  The 3M or similar products
> > adhere to almost any surface and can also be used as a paint primer
> > I'm told on foam swimming noodles
> > (source-Lisa Sturz)
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Steve Axtell<steve-AT-axtell.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>  I've got a fiberglass mechanical skull that
> >>> I'm gluing a latex face over.   Something we've
> >>> done many times but for some reason the contact
> >>> cements (we have tried 5 different brands
> >>> including barge) will not dry, or at least will
> >>> not bond.     The latex pulls right off.
> >>
> >> The glue is good, the latex is good.  The glue
> >> sticks wonderfully to the latex.   However I did
> >> not make the fiberglass piece I'm trying to bond
> >> to.  So it has some mystery ingredients....  I
> >> wonder if it might have been made with polyester
> >> resin instead of epoxy?   We are guessing that
> >> it's probably some kind of reaction from the
> >> fiberglass chemist mixing with the contact
> >> cements...causing them not to bond.  Perhaps a
> >> polyester resin that didn't completely cure correctly.
> >>
> >> I need ideas for what I could do to seal the
> >> fiberglass so I can bond to it with the contact
> >> cement.   I'll probably have to strip all the
> >> glue off, sand it down a bit, seal it with
> >> something that will not interact with the resins in the glass.
> >>
> >> Any ideas?
> >>
> >> Ax
> >>
> >>
> >>
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