File puptcrit/puptcrit.0909, message 53


To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 21:09:57 +0100
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] No one should die because they cannot afford health


Don't believe this about our health service. People associated with  
our theatre have had coronary by-passes and that 'cut-off' does not  
exist.

 From this side of the Atlantic the language you use seems odd -  
'sozialised medicine' , what's that? Here we simply have a Health  
SERVICE - a service for everyone in the country; nobody thinks about  
socialism - it serves us; it's just a rational, equitable, and  
sensible way of providing health care and security for the entire  
population. It isn't perfect but we're grateful for it, and for the  
people who fought for it in the 1940's. Joe - don't believe what  
you're being told.

Bob Frith
Horse + Bamboo Theatre
Rossendale, UK.


On 4 Sep 2009, at 13:51, Joe Dunfee wrote:

>> In the UK where they have socialized medicine
>
> There are plenty of people who would be dead if we had that system
> here.  The cut-off age for coronary bypass is 59 1/2 years.  This
> means past surgeon general C Everet Koop, and a man I know from
> church would not have been able to do a lot of their life's
> work.  And in regards to preventive medicine, the US is actually
> doing better in terms of the percentage of people who get things like
> breast cancer and colon cancer screenings.  This is even with those
> 47 million who are without insurance and often presumed to be without
> access to care.
>
> When the government takes money from you and then gives it back in
> some form, there are always strings attached.  I suspect it will be
> an overall lowering of the level of care, similar to what I've seen
> with medicare. Dr.'s in my brother's area, who accept medicare are
> getting hard to find and there are long waits for appointments, etc.
> They have to have enough non-medicare patients to subsidize the costs
> of the medicare patients.
>
>> Why don't we switch it around and have medicine paid for by taxes and
>> the bombs be financed though charity.
>
> Past world superpowers with socialized medicine spent even more than
> the US on bombs. Hmmm... thinking about it, historically we did have
> a volunteer militia during the revolution.
>
>
> Joe Dunfee  joe-AT-dunfee.com
> Gordonville, Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
>
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