From: Crabgrass Puppet Theatre <crabgras-AT-earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:13:25 -0500 To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Poor Puppeteering? I did tech for that Roberto Lago show in DC in '80, but I have no memory of what he did. Does anyone else remember? Michael Cotter was house manager. Jamie Crabgrass Puppet Theatre www.crabgrasspuppets.com On Nov 16, 2009, at 11:13 PM, Alan Cook wrote: > Ordinarily Roberto Lago (often assisted by Pepe Diaz y Nunez) and > puppeteers from Teatro Nahual (Mexico City) performed on hand > puppet stages so you did not see the puppeteers. > > Among their Acts were puppets dancing to recorded music (even music > by LeRoy Anderson whose musical works were used by many > puppeteers). One Act was Los Marineros---4 sailors in a boat which > sinks-the sailors are rescued by a Whale. Both the Boat and the > Whale were flat cutouts with a painted surface viewd by the audience. > > Another dance was performed by Hand Puppet Spanish ladies. > > They also performed stories for children or for adults, shows for > the government on hygiene or literacy. > > I don't know what routine(s) you saw in Washington DC My question > is, DID THEY HOLD THE PUPPETS HIGH OVERHEAD, which was standard > operation fo them? They could have just done a demo in Washington, > DC. How many of us have done demos, often on the spur of the > moment, to answer people's questions. > > In 1961, Roberto & Pepe performed at the National Puppetry Festival > in Pacific Grove CA and also conducted a Workshop on hand puppet > manipulation. It was also at that Festival that many of us first > met Jim & Jane Henson (The Muppets being a two-person company at > that time). > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Elbow > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:55 AM > To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org > Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Poor Puppeteering? > > I saw Roberto Lago perform with two associates at a huge puppet > festival in Washington, DC -AT- 1980. In one act Lago and another man > about his age just stood on the stage without a table, curtain or > other disguise. They both wore black suits and shirts. Each animated > a hand puppet - just standing there. They had a younger man with > them, and he might have been doing something without a puppet in > front of them. The act was about 5 minutes long. I was totally > impressed that a puppet show could be that simple. I don't have > Alan's memory, and I don't remember what the show was about. I do > remember that I was completely captivated and ready to run away with > them back to Mexico. > Linda Elbow > > On Nov 16, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Alan Cook wrote: > >> I'd suggest that poor puppeteering is anything that contributes to >> the unbelievability of the puppet, and good puppeteering is what >> gives a sense of life to the puppet. >> >> Yet, the late Mr. Fran Dowie of Vancouver, B.C., Canada did a >> hilarious act as "a bad ventriloquist" in which an arm falls off >> the dummy during the routine, then the leg, another arm, another >> leg---finally nothing is left but the head which is STILL talking. >> Fran made all this believable. >> >> Dr Seuss' GRINCH is now at the Pantages Theater in Hollywood to >> steal Christmas. There are some poorly animated puppets used >> incidentally, which if given basic direction by a knowledgeable >> puppeteer, COULD have been believable. >> >> Frank Paris and Bob Bromley used to appear standing on stage floors >> with their marionette varieties, operating one marionette or one >> tandem pair at a time---they did not upstage the marionettes, but >> their classy presence added something. Many night club puppeteers >> of the late 1930s emulated this format with success. >> >> It began as a matter of necessity in Frank's case. He did not have >> funds at age seventeen, to build a stage for an appearance at the >> Los Angeles Public Library, so performed without one atop a library >> table. He had borrowed a spotlight from Bob Bromley who was >> present. About two weeks later, Bob adopted the same >> simplification. For night clubs, often notorious for limited >> performance space, working marionettes in the open, made getting a >> puppet act on or off stage a lot easier. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List address: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org >> Admin interface: http://lists.puptcrit.org/mailman/listinfo/puptcrit >> Archives: http://www.driftline.org > > _______________________________________________ > List address: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org > Admin interface: http://lists.puptcrit.org/mailman/listinfo/puptcrit > Archives: http://www.driftline.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > List address: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org > Admin interface: http://lists.puptcrit.org/mailman/listinfo/puptcrit > Archives: http://www.driftline.org _______________________________________________ List address: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org Admin interface: http://lists.puptcrit.org/mailman/listinfo/puptcrit Archives: http://www.driftline.org
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