File puptcrit/puptcrit.1002, message 331


Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:39:24 -0500
From: Hobey Ford <hobeyone-AT-gmail.com>
To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] puptcrit Digest, Vol 64, Issue 23 archives


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On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Simon Palmer <simon-AT-illustrated-history.net
> wrote:

> It would be possible to have the UNIMA Encyclopedia on the market
> within a week at the modest price per unit of $38 hardbound
> (casewrap) and $25.50 paperback (perfect bound)... Can anyone guess how?
>
>
> Simon Palmer
> Illustrated History
> +44 (0) 161 611 0739
> +44 (0) 7944 804414
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>
>
>
>
> On 24 Feb 2010, at 17:44, Steve Abrams wrote:
>
> > This discussion sounds very much like discussions within the UNIMA
> > committees that worked on the encyclopedia
> > The sense that I get is that UNIMA very much wants to put the
> > encyclopedia
> > on line and is currently working towards that goal.
> > The point is not profit, the point is to get the information to
> > puppeteers
> > and anyone else who wants to see it.
> >
> > Because of the  chaotic and often inaccurate flaws of wikipedia I
> > think the
> > UNIMA leaders are thinking about some kind of board of editors-
> > just as
> > Hobey mentions
> >
> > In the mean time, many of us are grateful that the encyclopedia
> > actually
> > does exist.
> > It appears in French because funding and subsidies were found in
> > France to
> > actually make this a reality.
> >
> > The publisher (we should be grateful to the publisher) stipulated
> > that the
> > book should be in print for a year before it appears in any other
> > form. That
> > actually seems like quite a reasonable time frame and I hope it
> > will be
> > respected.
> >
> > As a side note
> > The texts for the encyclopedia were finished around 2004-2005 but
> > the issue
> > of photographs was entirely a separate question.
> > Points that were made: If lots of photographs are added it will add
> > to the
> > print  cost and to the sale price- its already going to be
> > expensive- maybe
> > we should avoid lots of photos?
> > The other point of view- Mostly text and few photos would lower the
> > cost a
> > little but it would make the volume dry and puppetry is a visual
> > art form.
> > After finally getting to see the encyclopedia I am glad that the
> > argument in
> > favor of photos prevailed. Those of us who wrote  for the
> > encyclopedia had
> > very little in-put about how the photos were collected and chosen.
> > It was
> > sort of a mystery. So we eagerly waited to see what the final product
> > actually looked like. The result is stunning. (and yes of course we
> > all have
> > our opinions and very minor disagreements about which photos were
> > used-personally I would like to have seen a Bil Baird photo and a
> > Ronnie
> > Burkett photo) but it seems to me that lots and lots of "right"
> > choices were
> > made.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Hobey Ford <hobeyone-AT-gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> You make a good point about the wikipedia model's user contributor
> >> problem.
> >> We could have a board of editors who would be authorized to make
> >> entries.
> >> The power of an online model would be that the archive could be
> >> updated
> >> yearly.  It would also save alot of cost in printing.  But I guess
> >> it would
> >> also eliminate profit from the sale of the book, but is that the
> >> point of a
> >> work like this anyway?
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 5:46 PM, <NANCYSTAUB-AT-aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> First someone should make a comprehensive list of archives as Steve
> >>> Abrams did for puppet collections. CPA in Atlanta has some Marjorie
> >>> McPharlin files and I'm going to deliver mine there soon. Perhaps
> >>> each archivist could list contents.
> >>>
> >>> I don't believe in posting info at the mercy of everyone. Some could
> >>> be self-serving and/or misinformed as on Wikipedia.
> >>>
> >>> Nancy
> >>>
> >>>
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