Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 21:41:52 -0800
From: Jonathan Kratter <jonathan-AT-kratter.com>
Subject: Re: baby food


See below...


At 02:44 AM 2/4/99 +0200, Nico MYOWNA wrote:
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>Do you know that almost all hunter tribes on earth practice mutual aid,  
>because they know very well that they need all humans and there capabili- 
>ties inside their respective tribe for their survival ?!! --

INSIDE their respective tribe... not outside of it... big difference there...


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>The "Survival of the fittest" is an old program by old minds, if you know  
>Nietzsche and the ideology of nazism. 

The Darwinian Theory is not an old program by old minds, it's the way
nature works.

I don't know much about Nietzche, but I know his ideas were pretty far from
Nazism.

I do know that Nazi racism had nothing to do with actual Darwinian theory
besides making lip service to it for propoganda purposes... anyone who's
read anything about evolution and Darwin can tell you that it's NOTHING
like what the Nazis were talking about.



>
>Daniel Quinn lead you astray if he notice that only *one* single culture  
>in the middle east start the agricultural revolution. There have been  
>agricultural native american cultures without contact to the middle east  
>since 1000 years before Christus. Who do you think cultivate mais, tomatos  
>and potatos ?!! --

There were indeed agricultural Native American cultures, but they did not
practice our type of agriculture, what Quinn calls "totalitarian"
agriculture because it uses the land exclusively as a human food source,
and all the societies which practiced agriculture like ours eventually died
out.


>He lead you astray if he peservere in a food race between agriculture and  
>population. There isn't such food race bevore the year 2005 -- only if we  
>don't change most agriculture from outside to an inside greenhouse work.  
>It's an fact that almost the best arable land in the Third world run by  
>governors of the First world for "colonial" goods like tabac, tee, coffee  
>and other drugs. Therefore Hunger is exclusively an economic and political  
>problem between the First and the Third world....

I really have no idea what you're talking about here... sorry... 

>He say:"We absolutely must stop sending our children out to save the  
>world, first arming them with the undermining belief that humans are  
>inherently toxic.(...) We must be on vigilant guard against teaching (...)  
>that the very best thing that can happen to the world is the extinction of  
>the human race." -- Your statement above corresponding fine with this  
>"undermining belief", I think.

Really?  Which statement would you be referring to?  The one where I said
that everyone would be better off if our population was 1/10th of what it
was?  That wasn't saying that humans are inherently toxic, it was saying
that there are TOO many humans...



	 -- jonathan





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