Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:24:36 -0400
From: roger <pelecat-AT-bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: anarchism and the international system




Dave Hayman wrote:

> now, and that is *NOT* a fair description. Then roger makes an
> egregiously silly equation between opposing NATO's actions and
> "support[ing] the serb crusade against islam"! Gee, I guess everyone who
> fought Hitler must approve of everything US and USSR gov'ts have done
> since.

oh, and by the way, you should at least read the post that pissed you off.  i
neither accused Dave of supporting the holocaust nor do i assert that opposing
the air campaign is tantamont to supporting the serbs.  i oppose them myself.

>
>
> roger sneers at Dave's credentials, which is his privilege, but I envy
> them.
>
> Then, to add insult to injury, roger lectures Dave on morality, and
> offers forgiveness! I think that roger is less interested in saving
> Kosovars than in making others wrong so he can feel right. Or perhaps
> "roger" is Tad's new alias..

don't have much of a sense of irony, do you asshole?  i neither ask for nor do
i accept any apologies from coull.  he's got his back up and no way he'll back
down.  fine, i'm not writing the posts for his benefit, nor yours.

i AM tired of dealing with children like hayman and coull, i don't care how
tall they are.  demands for apologies, personal slurs, and now this crap.  i
wish i had the time and luxury to give a fuck, but alas . . .

so, hayman, as you have nothing substantive to add to the discussion . . .

roger

> .
>
> roger wrote:
> >
> > touchy, touchy.  what's the matter, dave?  this is twice you've felt
> > compelled to defend your credentials.  are you beginning to see what a
> > limb you're on?  need a saw?  it's not MY fault your views on the
> > Holocaust coincide with neo-nazi drivel, dude.  go back and reread your
> > posts on the subject.  you should be ashamed.  it's not me who (for all
> > practical purposes) supports the serb crusade against islam and has made
> > vicious and untrue accusations against the kosovar victims.  it's not me
> > who refuses to answer the central question of the efficacy of state
> > power to potentially (and historically) stop potential genocide.
> > remember cambodia?  your silence is telling.  when faced with great
> > evil, it's often a test of character how one responds.  denial,
> > obsfucation, distraction . . . all are in evidence during this
> > discussion.
> >
> > dave, what is so troublesome is your propensity to vilify anyone who
> > disagrees with you.  you know very well what my position is on both the
> > bombing and on the underlying roots of the kosovo disaster.  i would
> > enquire what you mean by "lying techniqes" but i can't really be
> > bothered.  i've made an effort to restrain myself when you shoot off
> > your mouth with ad hominum attacks, and i will continue to do so.  your
> > anger is based on ignorance.  i know that you have no real appreciation
> > of the culture kampf that is occuring.  you haven't witnessed the
> > treatment of muslims in the balkans.  i understand and you're forgiven.
> > kiss, kiss.
> >
> > roger