From: "Andy" <as-AT-spelthorne.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:55:00 +0000
Subject: Re: questions & Shakespeare's birthday&goat cloning



> danceswithcarp wrote:
>  
> > ...The Great Carpspeare sallied forth with:
> > 
> > Julius Caesar
> > Act 3, Scene 1
> > ANTONY  O, pardon me, thou bleeding piece of earth,
> >         That I am meek and gentle with these butchers!
> >         Thou art the ruins of the noblest man
> >         That ever lived in the tide of times.
> >         Woe to the hand that shed this costly blood!
> >         Over thy wounds now do I prophesy,--
> >         Which, like dumb mouths, do ope their ruby lips,
> >         To beg the voice and utterance of my tongue--
> >         A curse shall light upon the limbs of men;
> >         Domestic fury and fierce civil strife
> >         Shall cumber all the parts of Italy;
> >         Blood and destruction shall be so in use
> >         And dreadful objects so familiar
> >         That mothers shall but smile when they behold
> >         Their infants quarter'd with the hands of war;
> >         All pity choked with custom of fell deeds:
> >         And Caesar's spirit, ranging for revenge,
> >         With Ate by his side come hot from hell,
> >         Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice
> >         Cry  'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war;       <---------
> >         That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
> >         With carrion men, groaning for burial.
> > 
> > Which for some reason has in the late 20th century been
> > corrupted to the common usage that Andy seems to be
> > referring to of "Cry foul, and set loose the dogs of war,"
> > 
> > Something in me says this misquote arises from "The Dogs
> > Of War" or "The Day Of The Jackal;" both was writ by the
> > same guy.
> > 
> > Neh, tu, goatster?
> > 
> > carpspeare
> 
> (goat rises to the bait:)
> 	aye, Freddy Forsyth, pretty good writer.  i 
> think i went to school with his sis, or somesuch.
> 
> 	"Bait the hook well: this fish will bite...
> 	The pleasantest angling is to see the fish...
> 	...greedily devour the trecherous bait."
> 		--W.S. 'Much Ado...& cetera.'
> 

Can we get away from this literal literature, mainly because I can't 
compete?

'...there is a dialectic between text and world' [Culler, 
Structuralist Poetics]

...so I can get quotes wrong.

PS I hear from our news that US scientists have managed to clone 3 
goats.
_as