From: "benabc -AT-" <benabc2-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Tornado and Littleton
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 22:57:44 MDT





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>In a message dated 5/8/99 2:24:01 PM EST, mendicant-AT-buddhist.com writes:
>
><< Russ wonders:
>
>  >THen what controls our level of thinking? Isn't it just a reflection on 
>our
>  >past?
>
>Bart replied:
>
>Before going off an a metaphysical romp with you, russ, old rutababa, tell
>  me what is the relevance of this question.
>  >>
>
>Just pondering.  What I was really asking is what is it that forms our
>thinking?  I fnot experiences then what? And if it is merely experiences,
>then we don't really have choices only chances.
>
>Bart States:
>
><<Excuse and rationalization are equivalent terms as you have used them.
>
>Saying that someone acted in a particular way because of the circumstances
>(as in the example you give), merely explains whay they acted or failed to
>act in a particular way.  It does not *excuse* the action, it just puts it
>into context.
>
>No one made anyone else act in any particular way.  A person acts in the
>manner that they choose, from the courses of action available to them, to
>act in the manner they did.>>
>
>I never said it excuses the action.  I'm saying that the persons 
>personality
>has been altered by other people's actions and this causes them to act in a
>certain way.  If there is a such thing as "choice" it is on a  very primal
>level.
>
><<Then, I reckon you're not ready for Zen yet, afterall.
>
>Yer Kindly Ol' Unka Bart>>
>
>Not ready for, not interested in. Same thing.
>Russ


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