From: "robert ludington" <felonious_punk-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Tornado and Littleton
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:04:53 PDT


<<  None at all, could you restate what you were saying then, because I 
obviously didn't understand.  Are you seriously saying that you believe it 
is possible to both predict and control every action another individual 
might make? Or are we caught up in some esoteric intellectual quagmire about 
free will?  Ben. >>

<<I'm not saying it's totally possible to predict someone's actions.  Well 
at least not without knowing their entire past to every detail.  Surely the 
actions people take on you effect your personality such as making you 
insecure or agressive.  I think that personality and decision making go hand 
in hand.  As events effect your personality, they are doing the same to your 
decision making process.  Maybe I'm a lunatic, but I don't see what else 
could shape out decision making process.

russ>>

   yeah, but you really gotta be carefull with that kinda argument, cause it 
can border on profiling, and characterizing people, basically what was a 
huge part of the littleton events. (kids being alienated because they are 
typecast into certain gorups, and then donning that as their identity)... 
and i mean, how often has that kind of mentality basically fostered the will 
to commit certain actions. jesus, in high school me and my friends wanted to 
destroy the school for alot of reasons, but MAINLY just cause everyone 
expected us to~!! felt like givin em a dose of poetic justice(but now i'm 
much more fond of hakim bey styled "poetic terrorism"... more fun too!)

we actually did run amok with guns once, albiet toy guns, and only shot at 
each other.... basically jsut to show up the people who had labled us. if we 
had done that since the littleton incident we would have been locked up for 
sure.  but man, now i feel even worse for kids these days who can't even 
play with cap guns(a kid was arrested for firing one around here on school 
grounds).... and already it's open season on kids in the inner city.


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