Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 00:46:29 +0800
From: Joel Ng <jngkj-AT-mbox2.singnet.com.sg>
Subject: Re: WHAT????????


Now I feel like I'm picking on Dave H, but I thought I'd just butt in here.

Dave Hayman wrote:

> The "proud to be an asshole" card is easy to play but doesn't address
> the problem. Chris' mistake did not deserve a rude reply. It seemed so
> unreasonable that the usually calm & rational DC would flame Chris over
> such a trivial matter that at first I really thought he was joking. When
> he followed it up with "I think it definitely required a rude reply."
> etc. I was amazed.

Well, when you called him an asshole, he took it in a lighthearted way, and
didn't get offended.  He did not flame you for that - do you see the
difference?  I'm not going to defend his action, but someone like Chris
*should* know that this list is international, and always has been, and
always will be, even if it happens to be based in the US now.  This list has
always been unforgiving of mistakes that are caused by apathy, ignorance or
any mixture of both.  I think his reply was hardly out of the ordinary
considering the trivial things that have started flamewars.  Besides, we
haven't even had a decent flamewar in probably a year or more.

> People get hurt by this sort of shit. I'm sure Chris, who's been on the
> list longer than I, has already recovered. But I am attracted to
> anarchism by the idea of mutual aid, not irresponsible abuse.

You obviously have never witnessed an a-list flamewar.

> There are 3 reasons I don't post much anymore:
> 1) Finally got a fucking job
> 2) Also going to night school
> 3) Posting to this list too often feels like walking thru a mine field.
>
> And after you get maimed, you get to hear the bomber say, "Hey, I never
> said I wasn't an asshole," as if that makes it OK. That's the sort of
> crap I expect from capitalists.

I probably just reinforced your opinion, heh.