File spoon-archives/anarchy-list.archive/anarchy-list_1999/anarchy-list.9907, message 79


From: Jerald Hellemeyer <bippie-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Lame pacifists in Eugene
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 17:53:49 CDT


Chuck writes:

>As an anarchist, I find the proposed law (anti flag burning amendment) to 
>be unworthy of my comments.

la de da.  How very smug.

>it's nice to see folks trying something different
>AND willing to get arrested.
>
>Hmmm, I wonder where they got this idea? ;-)
>
>-- Chuck0
>My Arrest record:
>Disorderly conduct - 1985 - Lawrence, KS (divestment protest)
>Mob Action Against the State - 1986 - Chicago, IL - (anarchist shopping)

Would this be when you were in high school or college and didn't have to 
worry about working the next day?  Why would you even post this?  Is it to 
stroke your ego, to make you feel superior, or is it just an attempt to 
shame others into behaving as you think they should.


>Instead, he should have pointed out to the
>reporter how the rage exhibited in the riot may have resulted from
>violent actions commited by the state, such as the use of pepper spray
>by the Eugene police.

Oh.  I see.  Two wrongs are supposed to make a right.  How silly of me not 
to realise it.  The next time I feel I've been done an injustice, I'll just 
randomly and violently lash out at whatever is handy.

>He also could have used the opportunity to point
>out that the violence perpetrated against Yugoslavia is something that
>folks should be more outraged about than a few scared motorists.

So, just because there is someone is being terrorized at a greater level, it 
is justifiable to scare the crap out of innocent motorists.  I don't buy it. 
  Either terrorism is wrong or it isn't.  Either condemn all terrorism or 
shut up.  Let's not have any of this moral relativism.

>The pacifist has every right to advance his philosophy, but there are
>better ways to do this,

In your opinion.  Or is your opinion now law.

>My message to pacifists is this: put up or shut up.

My message is this:  "lame pacificists" aren't nearly as annoying as 
egotistical activists who believe they know the only "way" and preach 
incessantly at those who dare to take another path.  Despite what you might 
think, the anarchist movement will not collapse without you (or any one of 
us for that matter).  Yes, you have put in a lot of work for the movement, 
but so have many others in a variety of ways.  If this sounds harsh, I'm 
sorry.  It is just that you have become rather moralizing lately.  As an 
anarchist, I will do whatever the hell I feel I should for the movement.  If 
you don't like it or don't approve, that's too bad.  I don't have to justify 
my actions or inaction to you or anyone else.  None of us do.  If you want 
to share an opinion, fine, have at it.  If you want to command or berate, 
you may as well keep it to your self (or join forces with Bill White).

Jerald


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