File spoon-archives/anarchy-list.archive/anarchy-list_1999/anarchy-list.9910, message 608


Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 12:05:30 +0100
From: Erik <anarchie-AT-buelinckx.net>
Subject: Re: This Whole Abortion Debate...)


At 10:04 +0000 24-10-1999, Dave Coull wrote:
...
>One of the other members was a one-time friend of mine
>who we shall call "Ian". Now, Ian did NOT like children.
>He always referred to other people's children as "brats".
>He split up from his first wife because she wanted a child
>and he swore he would never agree. He was enthusiastically
>"pro-choice", but in reality that meant he came down quite
>heavily on the side of "encouraging" women to have abortions.
>It's about eight years since I last saw "Ian", but he certainly
>gave no indication then of having changed his attitudes.
>And he isn't the only one. I have come across other people
>who will say that they are "pro-choice", but whose attitudes
>reveal their real preferences.
>
>Also, I have known quite a few women who were "encouraged"
>to have abortions by boyfriends or partners. Those men
>presumably also tell people that they are "pro-choice".
>Some unfortunate women, of course, have abortions paid
>for by male relatives for the purposes of covering up incest.
>Are those men also "pro-choice" ?
>
>When Maggie Thatcher's friend Sir Keith Joseph made
>his speech advocating abortions for "feckless" single
>women of the lower classes who got pregnant, was he
>also "pro-choice" ? When Prince Phillip, the father of that
>brood of parasites Prince Charles, Princess Anne, Prince
>Andrew and Prince Edward, made a speech agreeing
>with Sir Keith Joseph, should he also be counted "pro-choice" ?
>When China introduced a "one child" state policy which
>forced millions of women into abortions they didn't want,
>was  THAT  "pro-choice" ?
>

If you want to debate like this there is no point arguing anymore.

Pro-choice is a very simple term: it means that people should have a
choice. The examples you give above are all examples of authoritarian
actions which have nothing to with choice. So sorry, but these are not
convincing.

Erik



   

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