Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 12:05:30 +0100 From: Erik <anarchie-AT-buelinckx.net> Subject: Re: This Whole Abortion Debate...) At 10:04 +0000 24-10-1999, Dave Coull wrote: ... >One of the other members was a one-time friend of mine >who we shall call "Ian". Now, Ian did NOT like children. >He always referred to other people's children as "brats". >He split up from his first wife because she wanted a child >and he swore he would never agree. He was enthusiastically >"pro-choice", but in reality that meant he came down quite >heavily on the side of "encouraging" women to have abortions. >It's about eight years since I last saw "Ian", but he certainly >gave no indication then of having changed his attitudes. >And he isn't the only one. I have come across other people >who will say that they are "pro-choice", but whose attitudes >reveal their real preferences. > >Also, I have known quite a few women who were "encouraged" >to have abortions by boyfriends or partners. Those men >presumably also tell people that they are "pro-choice". >Some unfortunate women, of course, have abortions paid >for by male relatives for the purposes of covering up incest. >Are those men also "pro-choice" ? > >When Maggie Thatcher's friend Sir Keith Joseph made >his speech advocating abortions for "feckless" single >women of the lower classes who got pregnant, was he >also "pro-choice" ? When Prince Phillip, the father of that >brood of parasites Prince Charles, Princess Anne, Prince >Andrew and Prince Edward, made a speech agreeing >with Sir Keith Joseph, should he also be counted "pro-choice" ? >When China introduced a "one child" state policy which >forced millions of women into abortions they didn't want, >was THAT "pro-choice" ? > If you want to debate like this there is no point arguing anymore. Pro-choice is a very simple term: it means that people should have a choice. The examples you give above are all examples of authoritarian actions which have nothing to with choice. So sorry, but these are not convincing. Erik
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