From: "robert ludington" <felonious_punk-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Anarchist brutally murdered by jock
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:12:21 PDT


From: Jerald Hellemeyer <bippie-AT-hotmail.com>


>A jock...er...I mean athletic supporter who brutally murdered an
Amarillo,
>Texas anarchist goes free because he is "a good guy."  Amarillo
criminal
>defense attorney Warren L. Clark says that the murder was justified.
"This
>is not a case about diversity or tolerance or judging people by the
way
they
>dress," he said in his tempered twang. "This case is about a gang of
young
>men who chose a lifestyle, unorthodox as it is, designed to intimidate
those
>around them, challenge authority, and provoke reaction from others."
He
>also complains that the victims friends and family refuse to accept
the
>victim's role in his own demise.

then carp said:

>Oh, come on Jerald.   If this had been some punk running over a jock >I 
>doubt we'd be sedding too many anarcho-tears over it.

>Fight in wars, get killled.

>That slogan's been around since the first combat.

>And attorneys are PAID to say silly things.   Sheesh.  Sometimes I >think 
>you don't understand.


i've noticed the same thing. it seems like alot of people who's mantra is to 
smash the state, etc etc(which i assume means removal from power the 
state/federal judicial systems??) then turn around and complain when the 
courts don't hand down(what they percive to be) a heavy enough sentence...

yeah, i'd agree that getting off that easily for(by others accounts) 
intentionally running over, and killing someone in your car is bullshit when 
an anarchist gets 7 years for throwing a rock at a cop...
true, it does show how people with unpopular beliefs are cracked down on 
more than people who live in compliance with american ideals...

but so what's new with that? the real question i think, and have been 
pondering for awhile is.. and it seems alot of anti-authoritarians seem to 
avoid is... what would happen to this kid in *your(each individual on this 
list)* ideal utopia?  yeah, you'd hope in an ideal anarchist society there 
wouldn't be murder, theft, rape... but, what if it occurs? what if someone 
decides to take advantage of the lack of authority in a way they infringes 
on another's freedom? crime is greatly influenced by enviromental/social 
issues sure, but is it completely caused by this, and in every case??

i understand that the idea is to create a society where these problems are 
avoided by preventative measures.... but punishment occurs after the fact, 
so... what really is the point? then there's always the question of who 
shall enforce this punishment on another. and who decides what is a crime, 
and what is not?

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