File spoon-archives/anarchy-list.archive/anarchy-list_1999/anarchy-list.9912, message 412


Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 13:52:14 -0400 (AST)
From: Michael C Pugsley <mcpgsly-AT-mta.ca>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Liberals talk about anarchists at Philly GOP Conv.


Sorry, but what' the GOP convention??

On Dec 09, Chuck0 <chuck-AT-tao.ca> wrote:
> 
> Wow! It looks like the liberals are even scared of the black bloc. I
> think "black bloc" has entered the popular lexicon.
> 
> Cool.
> 
> Some of us have talked informally over the past 4 months about doing
> some anarchist stuff at the GOP convention next summer in 
Philadelphia.
> To be fair, anarchists should also do some actions at the Democratic
> convention, just to show people that we don't think one party if
> preferable over the other.
> 
> My only suggestion so far for Philaelphia is for us to hold a wake 
for
> the GOP. Not the best idea, but one for consideration nonetheless.
> 
> If anything, I plan to be very outspoken among all groups planning
> actions for these conventions about the need for everybody to resist
> police free speech control measures like "protest corrals." They did
> this to us in 1996 in Chicago and to the anarchists credit, we 
wouldn't
> have any part of it. The Seattle police should have done something 
like
> this, if they had been savvy enough about dividing the resistance
> contingent into radicals who wouldn't comply and those who didn't 
want
> to challenge authority.
> 
> Chuck0
> 
> >Mailing-List: ListBot mailing list contact July30-help-AT-listbot.com
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> >Reply-To: "July 30 in Philly" <July30-AT-listbot.com>
> >Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 19:39:49 -0500
> >From: Shadow <shadow42-AT-geocities.com>
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >To: July 30 in Philly <July30-AT-listbot.com>
> >Subject: Re: Seattle and Philly
> >Status:
> >
> >July 30 in Philly - http://members.aol.com/phillyconv
> >
> >As far as the ideological focus:
> >
> >I was so impressed about the Seattle actions because for the first 
time
> >in 30 years there was a genuine convergence of feeling between 
sort-of
> >mainstream working class people, and 'left wing' people and 
enviro's.
> >
> >I think this same assortment of people can make common cause 
against the
> >Republican party, for almost the same reason. If I were to 
articulate
> >it, I'd say "we're sick of political 'business as usual' and 
pandering
> >to the rich & powerful while the ozone layer burns, global warming 
plays
> >havoc with our world, poor people get poorer, jobs disappear 
overseas,
> >etc.'." Simplistic as it might be, the Republicans can be seen as 
one of
> >the forces responsible. (yeah, I know, the Democrats aren't much
> >better.)
> >
> >Still, I don't know how this can possibly be as big as Seattle!
> >
> >> I know already that everyone wants to avoid violence, this 
including
> >> vandalism. This is utterly impossible because you cannot shut out 
the black
> >> bloc, esp. in philly. We must recognize that Mumia will be in the 
middle of
> >> his hearings. Tension will be in the air. We will have large 
black block
> >> contingents and also the Black Panthers. This is touchy for 
everyone. We
> >> need to figure out how to diffuse police violence, should it 
occur.
> >
> >Frankly, this seems almost impossible, Philly police being what 
they
> >are. In fact, the threat of police violence looms much larger than 
it
> >did in Seattle (since Philly law enforcement has such a bad 
reputation.)
> >I think this will keep a lot of people away.
> >
> >Laura Woodswalker
> >
> >
> 
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