Date: 10 Dec 1999 20:55:00 +0200 From: ASWAD-AT-anarch.free.de (catkawin) Subject: Re: uber alles ? Hi all, it's great having some well-informed people passing on their info, even giving background stuff, on exotic European countries. > >> uber alles > >> whats this mean > > "Over all" > > =o= There's some background here. It's from a song with the > title "Deutschland Ueber Alles" (there's an umlaut over the u). Congrats, this is correct about the u-Umlaut. > This was apparently once just a sweet little uptopian tune about > the German countryside. Apparently it wasn't. The words were written by a Grrman poet, Hoffmann von Fallersleben, some time back in the 1840ies. At that time, we were - yes, indeed - trying to have a revolution, get rid of all the nobility and do as we please under what was then thought to be a democratic government. The idea was to have the citizens represented in a parliament, which would mean those people to whom the French "bourgeois" applied. Mind you, some even went as far as believing that also the rest should have parliamentary representation. There were even strange ideas like "one man - one vote" being passed on. At least in Grrman schools, there's funny things like a historical atlas, and if you ever get access to one of those, open it and look up Grrmoney at that time. You won't find it. What existed was a few larger states and a multitude of small, smaller, smallest and tiniest states, each with their own head of state, some duke, or count (yep, that spells o-u) or whatever, living off the hard work of the people, wasting their money, making all his own laws as he pleased. Now, at that point in time, you was looked upon being a revolutionary of the worst sort as long as you favoured to *unite* Grrmoney. So the poem had the message that no matter who is king of what hill, it's all Grrmoney, one country, and it should be one country instead of being divided into hundreds of patches of land. As a sidenote: even then it wasn't true that Grrmoney extended from Etsch (Italy) to the Belt (Denmark), nor from Maas (Belchum) to Memel (Lithuania, basically, although I'm not certain whether that meant Russia or Poland at that time). As a sidenote, the revolution 1848/49 failed, the Frankfort parliament didn't get anything much done except discussing, and we kept the "independent" patchwork of hundreds of states for some time to come. > =o= Later, though, Hitler used it as a nationalist anthem. I beg your pardon?!?!?!?!?! That song, quite incidentially, became national anthem under the Kaiser. That was after the war with France 1870/71 which the Grrmans won, and then the king in Prussia (legally, he was not king *of* Prussia but the Duke of Brandenburg was only allowed to call himself king as long as he stayed *in* his Prussian province) was made Kaiser (emperor) of Grrmoney. All they did was take the poem as the wording pleased them, now that the danger of a democratic revolution was over and done with for more than twenty years (and the 1849 appeal of the king in Prussia to his subjects still being followed: To rest calm now is the first duty of all citizens). They were frantically looking for a tune to it and finally decided upon a tune which had been used in Austria before. So the Grrmans sang their national anthem to a tune which originally was worded: Gott erhalte Franz den Kaiser (God keep Franz the Emperor). So since 1871, this thing has been, and still is, our national anthem. Just that after 1945, we got hints that, in future, it would raise a few doubting eyebrows if we still sang that thing about Grrmoney from Etsch to Belt and stuff. Therefore, it is now illegal to sing this, and the national anthem is the third verse of the poem. You can be taken to court for singing the first verse. And what was installed under the Kaiser was not a democracy, although he and his ilk had to back up a bit and allow a parliament and give some people the right to vote. We had a three-class system, and basically to be allowed to vote, you had to own real estate. Depending on how much you owned, you could even get more than one vote. This did no damage, since the persons able to vote were all stinking rich and had their interests to protect against the masses of people. Over the time, a few amendments were introduced, to keep the masses appeased, so even under the Kaiser, more male persons got the right to vote, but they were always able to make sure things went the right way by "gerrymandering" and stuff. The Nazis, actually, did not care all that much about the national anthem, although they kept it. But there were other songs which they rated higher than the anthem. They were opposed to everything which dated back from the days of the Weimar Republic, which they called the "system" and were deeply against. The Weimar Republic had kept the national anthem. > Thus, when you see somebody using the phrase today, they're > usually making a sideways reference to authoritarianism, > fascism, and/or nationalism. Read: Thus, when "ueber alles" is used today, it's a reference to authoritarianism and/or nationalism. Let me finish this with a heartfelt: US history classes - ueber alles! catkawin
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