File spoon-archives/anarchy-list.archive/anarchy-list_2000/anarchy-list.0004, message 112


Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 08:38:56 -0500 (EST)
From: danceswithcarp <dcombs-AT-bloomington.in.us>
Subject: Re: Euro-bashing




On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Jamal Hannah wrote:

> Well Carp, I basicaly agree with you about the MOVE group, but I still
> think Mumia should be supported, at least to fight the death penalty and
> cop-worship.

Oh, Mumia isn't the issue.  I ran into a bunch of blind MOVE/Ramona
supporters on the Prison-Activist list in, um, '99.  Man, I couldn't
believe how they trated everyone else.   Then it came down to anyone who
disagreed with them  were racist pigs who should be put in jail.  Ramona
Africa may express soidarity with Mumia, but she sure doesn't believe in
what he says.
 
> Regaurding euro-centrism. I dunno carp.. what do you have against
> Europeans?  

Well, jamal, "euro-centrism" is really "american-cantrism" but
"american-centrism" doesn't seem to be the 'term de jour.  People who tend
to mock people because of a name that expresses an, um, affinity towards
nature seem to disregard the native american roots of the name.   I was
named "dances with carp" by a cherokee hell-raiser named "Indian Bill."
Of course I was named "carp" by my brother, but Indian Bill imporved on
it.   His real name was something like "Little Bear That Fishes" and only
a condenscensing loony person of european stock would mock that (because
he carried a knife *THIS* big).

> Personaly I like european anarchists because they seem to have
> thought things out more, since they have less illusions about anarchism
> being about bomb-throwing and stuff. Also, in Europe you have less
> "anarcho-capitalists" to screw with people's heads.

I like some european anrachists; primarily the self-taught/thought ones
like Erik and Dave and Andy and Ian and Cat.   Not to generalize most of
the others seem to suffer some weird kind of anti-american symbollic penis
envy.  I _hate_ being accused of being a racist-slave-owning-nuclear
-weapon-using-capitalist-lackey-of-the-Wirld-Bank-with-corporate-sponsorship.

But that's just my personal opinion.  I would guess the europeans find
great sport in it.



carpo


   

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