Date: 06 Jun 2000 02:02:00 +0200
Subject: No Parole Peltier site (fwd)



Chuck fwd'ed the address of the No Parole Peltier website the other day.
I received info that the person maintaining this site is a certain Ms Sue  
Veldkamp, a professional web designer, who said she put up the site on  
behalf of a gentleman working for the FBI. Veldkamp is also said to have  
engaged in anti-Native activities in the net before. Veldkamp was  
contacted by the editor of Native News - below please find excerpts from a  
mail conversation between the editor and Ms Veldkamp. I find the  
contributions by Ms Veldkamp especially revealing as to where her  
sympathies are....

catkawin


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!!!!!!  **To: "Sue" <sue-AT-matschca.com>**
web site designer www.noparolepeltier.org

You said you wanted an open discussion...
WHY ARE YOU REMOVING POSTS THAT ARE NOT THREATENING OR OBSCENE?  that  
pertain to possibly direct connections that propose an alternate reason  
for Mr Edward (William?) Woods involvement?  I can understand if the two  
names are indeed two different agents why he would in no way wish to bear  
the burden of the other agent's questionable, indeed illegal actions in  
the questioning of Myrtle Poor Bear, subsequent 3 contradictory affidavits  
and possible connection with the slaying of Anna Mae Aquash.

This is censorship..controlling the information available.  A COINTELPRO
practice.


At 03:18 PM 05/26/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>Ishgooda,
>I'm sorry, but you won't convince me that two agents, with only 6 shooters
>in their cars, and the other rifles in their trunks and not immediately
>accessible, came onto that reservation with the intention of having a
>shootout with anybody. Those 6 shooters, not even with speed-loaders as
>they have now, were antique and inadequate to mount any kind of opposition,
>or defense, for that matter. That is why Agent Coler tried so desparately
>to get to his trunk, so that he could get a weapon that would have given him
>at least a CHANCE of defending himself.
>
>I COULD even begin to understand self-defense, if there were many agents,
>armed with rifles, coming onto the reservation and firing FIRST. That is
>not what happened. These 2 agents were ambushed, injured, and then
>executed. I realize the debate in Peltier's actual involvement in the
>execution, but, he was convicted of aiding and abetting. He admits to being
>there and firing on the agents. If you read Peltier v. Henman, 8th
>circuit, 1993, page 465, paragraph 2, it states in part:
>Peltier's arguments FAIL because their underlying premises are fatally
>flawed.
>
>The government tried the case on ALTERNATIVE THEORIES: it asserted that
>Peltier personally killed the agents at point blank range, but that if he
>had not done so, then he was EQUALLY GUILTY of their murder as an AIDER and
>ABETTER.
>The government's statement at the prior oral argument upon which Peltier
>relies, WAS NOT A CONCESSION that the government had not proved that Peltier
>had not killed the agents personally, and that Peltier's conviction could be
>sustained only on an aiding and abetting theory.
>
>The evidence allegedly supporting Peltier's SELF DEFENSE CLAIM was
>improperly excluded, WAS CORRECTLY REJECTED.
>
>The entire Peltier v. Henman brief will be posted on the NPPA site.
>
>My understanding from watching Incident at Oglala was that the unrest on
>Pine Ridge had a lot to do with INTERNAL unrest, not necessarily with the
>FBI, but more with the traditionalists and the non-traditionalists.
>
>Sue
>
>----- Original Message ----- \
>From: <ishgooda-AT-voyager.net>
>To: Sue <sue-AT-matschca.com>
>Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 3:13 PM
>Subject: Re: [NativeNews] Peltier debate brews in cyberspace...Coincidence?
>
>
I am in process of posting the appeals summaries.  Most were dismissed
because in order to bring something on appeal, it had  to have been
addressed in the original hearing.  Evidence was suppressed by the FBI such
that its existence could not be brought on appeal.  Secondly, certain kinds
of issues need to have been appealed within a certain time frame.  Various
deadlines were missed for a number of reasons, and those appealed because of
FBI and prosecutorial misconduct which created the delays.
There were so many shootings and beatings on Pine Ridge in this time period
the people were very afraid and called Peltier and AIM to come and protect
them.
Put yourself in a war zone...this was Pine Ridge.
Ish
COINTELPRO in the 90s

http://www.tdi.net/ishgooda/peltier/

>At 02:16 PM 05/26/2000 -0400, you wrote:
> >I cannot speak as to the atrocities suffered to the Indians, but I can
>speak
> >that I can be very sympathetic to their cause, and still feel that Leonard
> >Peltier is guilty and should remain behind bars.   Murder is not defined by
> >race or nationality.  What I have observed over the last 2 weeks is that
>the
> >facts of this case have been distorted, twisted, and confused as to serve
> >the LPDC's needs.  If the LPDC "sees" this case in the way they do, why
>have
> >all appeals been upheld?  You would think that a appeals court would have
> >reversed it if there were any inpropriety.
> >
> >Lastly, would the LPDC be willing to provide a forum on THEIR site, or
> >provide a LINK to the NPPA site on their site as to invite open debate?  I
> >don't think so.
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