File spoon-archives/anarchy-list.archive/anarchy-list_2000/anarchy-list.0009, message 260


Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 00:31:11 +0200
From: Erik <anarchie-AT-buelinckx.net>
Subject: Re: Invitation to Aynarchism


At 21:28 +0200 26-09-2000, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
>  >> A lot of things can be wrong with a flame fest: it can
>>>  intimidate people, scare people away, waste a lot of time;
>>>  flaming can be a fucking patriarchal power trip, that's what's
>>>  wrong with it.
>
>>  A flame fest is what you make of it.
>
>Yes, but must one always make (something out of) a flame fest
>in the first place?  Why is allowing a flame fest to drown out
>other voices anarchistic and freedom-loving, while creating a
>space for those other voices is not and cannot be?

By creating that space you destroy some other space and in the 
process you violate a (one the few) fundamental idea of anarchism 
which poorly translates to this: my (your) freedom preferably ends 
where yours (mine) begins.

A flame fest is a series of words, that's all. On the other hand: 
denying people to speak out because you don't like what they say is a 
an authoritarian (and therefor unarchistic) way of running things. 
What makes it worse is that no member of such moderated list will 
know if, why, when someone is muzzled.

>  > By banning something out of a patronizing sense of PC you do not
>>  create the basis of anarchistic cooperation.
>
>I don't really worry a lot about accusations about "PC".  Most of
>the time such accusations come from patriarchalists, or the
>Patriarchally Correct.

But the focus here was not the term "PC" but the idea of anarchistic 
cooperation. Nice try but missed.

Erik

   

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