From: "res02iqa-AT-gte.net" <res02iqa-AT-gte.net>
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 08:51:44 -0700
Subject: Re: what do we mean when we say capitalism?


On 20 May 01, at 17:53, Jamal Hannah wrote:

> On Thu, 10 May 2001, Old Goat wrote:
> 
> > And when I speak of "private property" I guess that could be
> > interpreted as property -- real and chattel -- in my personal, or
> > family, possession which is used as a means of personal subsistence.
> >  Although I've yet to be able to figger how you'd *enforce* a no
> > private property edict in an anarchist (voluntary) society.
> 
> 
> 
> Anarchists basicly differentiate "private property" meaning things
> which the capitalists owns but does not directly use (he hires other
> people to use them and generate profits for him) from "personal
> posessions" which people use directly.  Private property would be
> things like land, factories, rental houses, etc.  Personal posessions
> are things like the house you live in, your car, your TV, your VCR,
> your baseball card collection, etc.
> 
> I think the concept of private property collapses once you no longer
> have a police force to defend it, and once workers realize they dont
> have to be part of a private property system anymore, which they are
> forced to put up with now.

Agreed. Feudalism will collapse when the State ain't around to prop 
it up. No one here questions a person's right to be safe in his home 
( or to build one on unused land without paying tribute to a title 
holder first ), or to prevent some asshole from stealing personal 
possessions.


Regards,

Kristopher K. Barrett