Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:41:55 -0400
From: "Kevin A. Carson" <KCarson-AT-MailAndNews.com>
Subject: RE: [anarcomod] Re: [AP_discuss] Action


You said about the same thing I was trying to, but you got it across better.

Kevin

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>
>
>> I dunno. This really strikes a chord with me. But, our numbers are few. I
>> think that we can't set a blueprint for what may happen a long time from
>now.
>> I think the final liberating anarchist revolution, whether peaceful or
>> violent, will rest on majority acceptance of anarchist ideals. I mean, i
>> think people will start asking the questions of "how, when, where", once
>> complete sweeping revolution becomes more viable, and by more viable i
>mean
>> that something like 70 to 99% of the people in whichever country this
>> revolution occurs believe anarchist revolution is necissary.
>
>  The problem is  that you ain't going to get 70 to 99% of the people to
>support
>anarchist revolution without laying out sound ideas of how the
>post-revolutionary
>society will look like. Remember we  ain't like the Marxist-Leninists who
>seek to
>control and manipulate the people and  the revolution. As anarchists we want
>the
>people to actively and directly control the revolutionary process and most
>people
>are not going to take that step without a clear idea of what they are
>fighting for.
>  Also, let us not make the mistakes of the past. I remember in the  1970s
>talking to
>some folks from Iran. They stated  to me that the  revolution  to get rid of
>the
>Shah must take place before they could speak of a new society. Well the
>revolution
>happen and after that  they got a society  which was as authoritarian  or
>even more so
>that the Shah was and talk of a new society was outlawed. The same thing can
>be said for
>Russia, Cuba and so on. In Spain there  were clear ideas and that allowed
>people to act upon
>them as they did. The point is  that if  you wait to begin to build your new
>society until after
>the revolution someone else is going to step in and take the revolution away
>from you.
>  Also, the most important post-revolutionary activity is to fulfil the
>needs of the people.
>Though the people may rebel and cast off a government, when they get hungery
>that will,
>in time, go along with who every feeds them. In todays world this is even
>more important
>than in the past because people are farless self-dependent. Thus, in my
>view, the anarchist
>revolution needs to, as a part of the revolutionary process, begin to build
>the foundation
>of the new society as we destroy the  old society. That means the
>organization of communities
>to fulfil their own needs without  a dependences upon the State or
>capitalism. Then the people
>will know what they are fighting for, not just what they are fighting
>against, and they will seek
>to defend that which they themselves have built.
>  As to the question of  revolutionary blue prints. We must understand that
>there are different types
>of blue prints. There are those blue prints that design every aspect of what
>is being built and you can't
>deviate from the blue print. Let us call that an authoritarian blueprint. I
>am a marine pipefitter (over 20 years
>in shipyards) many piping blue prints for ship cannot be followed to  the
>letter because it would not work.
>Thus the blue print for us is a statement of what they want a functioning
>system to do. It is up to us
>to make that system fit the situations found on the ship. In otherwords
>without the direct input of the
>pipefitter the blue prints are a worthless piece of paper. This is the  type
>of blueprint  we need, something
>that shows what we are trying to create but has the flexibility to be built
>based upon the conditions of
>the situation that people find themselves in, and that  it is  build based
>upon the builder's ideas.
>Arthur J. Miller
>
>
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