From: "gracchus" <tiberiusgracchus-AT-home.com> Subject: Re: postmodern war blues Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 14:02:23 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- From: "ninetyone andy" <andy_91_2000-AT-yahoo.co.uk> To: "gracchus" <tiberiusgracchus-AT-home.com>; "a-list" <anarchy-list-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 1:13 PM Subject: Re: postmodern war blues > > It's just nationalism and religion, and frankly, rich > little Saudis wanting to be heroes. Nothing new. > > Andy > > i don't think so. it COULD have been just that, but shrubby insists on raising it to the level of war (indeed THE war of good vs evil; you can fight a clear evil without yourself becoming good by the way). this is significant in that the approach up to now is to fight 'terrrorism' as a crime, no matter how obviously political the motivation. this is more than a semantic point. can a freelance group, even a well financed one, jerk around a modern nation-state? while entertained as an abstract concept, it had never been demonstrated prior to last tuesday. the u$ response has given tremendous political legitimacy to whomever is behind this. one could almost interpret this as a moment of crisis for the state. might even explain why so many otherwise sensible foreign ministers are maintaining ranks with washington. as i mentioned before, the state has based it's very identity and raison d'etre on it's monopoly of credible war-making capacity. a lot of people may get some nasty ideas from this week. not good for states and probably not very good for the rest of us cannon fodder either. this is all very depressing. i still don't know about a lot of people i know in the city and some who should have been passing through. hard to separate out the personal from the more universal at a time like this. i do think, however, that my main point is that the remedy that will be attempted by the u$, et. al. will likely be far worse than the malady we now suffer from. fortunately, i've got a couple days worth of simpson and south park episodes taped and lots of mental health aids. see ya later. roger
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