Subject: Re: Fermented Cabbages Fail To Prevent Mass Civilian Casualties
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 23:59:25 -0000



----- Original Message -----
From: "Kristopher K. Barrett" <threejaguar-AT-yahoo.com>
To: "heather" <heather-AT-teknopunx.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: Fermented Cabbages Fail To Prevent Mass Civilian Casualties


> On 9 Jan 2002 at 21:30, heather wrote:
>
> > I used to do it when i grew my own apples but it was tricky gettig it
before
> > it turned to cider vinegar. I switched to red wine A) because someone
told
> > me it prevents cancer and B) 3 litres a night over a period of about 15
>
> Sounds like some of your equipment was infected with vinegar making
> microbes.

Yeah, there apparently dozens of strains that might be on the apples
themselves if you're using organic apples,-so I'm told, method I used was
the old fashioned one that depends on the apples and sugar doing it's own
thing without adding yeast. Used to make mead without yeast too-just fill up
a honeytub, the big ones used to collect honey from the spinner that drew it
off the combs(my grandpa kept bees) after the honey had been poured into the
jars but still thickly coated the tub and leave it for at least a year.
yummy.

Once that gets started, it's time to nuke everything in the boiler,
> and sell what won't fit inside it for sterilization. Some sulfite tablets
24 hours
> before pitching the yeast would also help.

uhuh, I was a bit of an anti-nuke type when I lived on the farm,
sterilization method was non existant and chemicals a dirty word.
>
> Phenol content is what makes wine healthy.... just use the same "wine"
> yeast on any fruit juice....You can get the calories of cider down to wine
levels
> by being more aggressive about higher alcohol content.

Yup, that was another problem, I like to drink quantity. 3 wine glasses of
some homebrewed cider and I'd be flat on my back with my legs in the air.
Not a pretty sight. I like it when the % alcohol content is accurately
marked on the bottle without having to suffer the consequences of the suck
it an see method. I like watered down wine, it agrees with me, doesn't make
me fat, or get me legless. Saying that, however, if your cider travels well,
feel free to send me a sample, I might change my mind if it works better.
H
:-)
 (on the chablis tonight for a change-xmas presant-drank it neat and about
to start on the second bottle, yummy, slurp, hic)