Subject: RE: Anarchist website targets Christians
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 09:49:41 +1100 



Hey Chuck0 now yr friends with the AFA,
what size flak jacket do you take?

Nic...off!
"With friends like that...."
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Chuck Munson [SMTP:chuck-AT-tao.ca]
> Sent:	Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:35 AM
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> Subject:	Anarchist website targets Christians
> 
> I figured this article had been published this afternoon as soon as hate
> mail started flooding my inbox. It's good to know that I have the right
> enemies.
> 
> -- Chuck0
> 
> Anarchist website targets Christians
> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25958
> 
> One pro-family group says network 'sowing fear and hatred'
> 
> By Andy Butcher
>  2002 Charisma News Service 
> 
> A pro-family group is taking legal advice over its inclusion on a list
> of "Christian Hate Groups" by an anarchists' network it says is inciting
> violence against conservative campaigners.
> 
> The American Family Association is likened to Afghanistan's
> fundamentalist Taliban movement at the website infoshop.org, which
> describes itself as "your online anarchist community." Also listed is
> the Family Research Council, whose Washington, D.C., address is detailed
> with the comment: "We don't advocate that you do anything to their
> lovely building."
> 
> The groups are spotlighted, along with the Christian Coalition and
> Promise Keepers, on a page offering "practical advice for the free
> person who wants to stop religious hate groups from running your life."
> It invites visitors to "join us as we kick some dirt into their graves,
> burying their hideous fascism once and for all."
> 
> AFA heads the list of "Christian Hate Groups" and is identified as
> "probably the last religious right organization with any political
> clout. Of all the religious right groups, this one is the closest to the
> Taliban in mindset, agenda and actions."
> 
> The FRC is described as "the 'think tank' and paymaster to right-wing
> hate groups," which raises money "primarily by flaming hatred of gay
> people." The "infamous" Christian Coalition is said to be "a mere shadow
> of its former self." PK "went out in a blaze of glory ... several years
> back." Also included is a Virginia-based group that fought the
> distribution of a gay newspaper in public libraries.
> 
> AFA Vice President Tim Wildmon said that the organization's lawyers
> would take "a serious look" at the anarchists' website. The comments on
> the page were "a veiled threat of violence towards pro-family or
> Christian groups," he said. But "they are the ones who are sowing fear
> and hatred  you don't see anything of that nature at our website."
> 
> Wildmon said that AFA was "much more in the mainstream of traditional
> American thought" than anarchists. He rejected the website comparison
> with the Taliban. "They are saying ... if you have moral objections to
> such things as pornography or homosexuality or abortion, and try to work
> within the system to uphold the values you believe in, that makes you
> like someone who will take a gun to the head of a lady who isn't wearing
> her head garb right and blow them away in a soccer field. It's
> ridiculous." The FRC declined to comment.
> 
> "Chuck0" Munson, the webmaster for infoshop.org, defended his comparison
> of the AFA to the Taliban.
> 
> "Most people would say they are like the Taliban," he said. "I certainly
> think that among all the groups they are certainly the closest in
> politics and practice," he told Charisma News Service.
> 
> "They might not cut off people's arms, but I am sure they would like to
> see a religious state in the U.S.; that is always something that a lot
> of the groups have pushed for over the years."
> 
> Munson, whose site is a clearinghouse for anarchist news, views and
> activities, and billed as "family-friendly," said the comment about the
> FRC building had been intended as a joke. "I'm certainly in favor of
> doing actions against property, especially corporate property. People, I
> don't really like that."
> 
> The leaders of AFA, FRC and other prominent Christians have also been
> targeted recently in a "die soon" wish list by a radical pro-homosexual
> website. Creators of usQueers.com claim they don't advocate acts of
> violence toward the people, but "if a person on this list dies
> (preferably a horrible death), a line will be drawn through their name."
> The deceased will then be added to the site's "good riddance list."
> 
> Charisma News Service is a division of Strang Communications.