Subject: Re: Axeing the Bleed from Anarcy List
Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 18:11:25 -0700


thank you for posting that explanation.  spam control is certainly a
righteous and noble struggle, without which the list would be
essentially un-readable.  there's probably a profound metaphor in all
this but i choose to ignore it.

roger


----- Original Message -----
From: "Spoon Collective" <spoons-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
To: "David Brown, Recollection" <recall-AT-eskimo.com>
Cc: "Anarchy list" <anarchy-list-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>;
"spoon-admin list" <spoon-administration-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: Axeing the Bleed from Anarcy List


> On Fri, 24 May 2002, David Brown, Recollection wrote:
>
> > The Daily Bleed has been going to this list for roughly 4-5 years,
so
> > why suddenly is it verbotten?
>
> Well, you may not have noticed (it seems you have not), but it
hasn't been
> appearing recently.
>
> The reason for this is simple.  Several months ago, in response to a
> massive increase in spam, the spoon collective (who are they/we? the
folk
> who manage the technical side of this list and a bunch more; we do
this on
> rotation, a week at a time; this week is my week) instituted new
filters
> to deal with posts sent to our list.  (We have a bunch of other
filters
> that, for instance, prevent mail loops and virus-laden messages and
other
> inconveniences for all of us.)
>
> This new spam filter separates out mail that does not have a list
name in
> the "To" or the "Cc" header.
>
> For most of the lists, the filter junks the messages.  There are two
lists
> (anarchy-list and aut-opsy) for which we look through the apparent
spam
> and approve messages that we think actually should be getting
through to
> people.
>
> When I turned up on rotation this week, we had zillions of messages
in
> this folder.  Many were from the Daily Bleed, which (as much as
anything
> because it is extra hassle for the person doing rotation) had not
gotten
> approved.  To reduce, if only slightly, the number of messages we
have to
> deal with on a daily basis, I asked you to stop sending them to the
list.
> You didn't reply.  I then asked again, and you sent me the following
> message:
>
> "Why is this?? You're a little short."
>
> To which I replied:
>
> "Because it's a discussion list.
>
> "Apologies for any shortness, but this was the second time of
asking."
>
> At which point you posted to the anarchy-list, under the subject
line
> "Axeing the Bleed," addressing me as "Herr Pavlov."
>
> > It originally appeared daily on this list, not direct from me, but
from
> > two individual subscribers (Chuck-O & Freddy Baer) who used to
take
> > the time each day to copy & forward the material because they
thought
> > it was of value to the "discussion" list. Because of the extra
work
> > involved eventually it made more sense to send it direct to the
> > list from me.
>
> Fine.  No problem.  However, I'll just point out that the extra work
has
> simply shifted to us, the spoon collective.  And we are not always
> renowned for our workrate (not all collectives are), which is why
the
> Bleed hasn't been getting through.
>
> To ensure it gets through, do the following: send it to the
anarchy-list
> directly, from you, with anarchy-list-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu in
the
> "To" header.  That way, it will evade our filters.
>
> To ensure it gets through sporadically, as at present, continue as
you
> are.
>
> (If we were smart enough we might be able to write a special
> filter-exception rule just for the Bleed; but there are smart
members of
> the spoon collective, and stupid members, and I'm one of the
latter.)
>
> > --- Dave
>
> Take care
>
> Jon
>
> for
> the spoon collective
> http://lists.village.virginia.edu/spoons/