From: "Dave Coull" <coull2-AT-btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Anarchy list steel cage death match? Not.
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 13:39:33 +0100



Kristopher wrote


> I looks like Dave and Heather do not like each other...


Well, I definitely  _used_  to like Heather, Kristopher.

And Heather definitely used to like me.

A few months ago she was supposed to be getting married
(to some guy she met on an e-mail list, not this one).
Not only did she want both me and Keri at her wedding,
she even asked me to play the role of "father of the bride"
and "give her away". That didn't actually happen, for reasons
totally un-related to me, but it does indicate that relations
were much friendlier a few months ago. They have become
very bad  _since_  then. But not because either I or my
attitude towards Heather have changed in any way.


> random flaming


Not on my part.
I don't go in for random flaming.
If I express a point of view on something
that somebody else has said, it's because
that is my point of view which I think needs
saying. The recent bout of hostilities started
when Heather mentioned on the a-list (in response
to you, I think, Kristopher) the possibility of ending
up living in a van. It occurred to me that, just
in case you (and others)


>> read that and thought "Poor Heather, why aren't
>> the other Scottish anarchists helping her to fight eviction
>> from her home?"    -    the answer is, because she doesn't
>> want us to do this.


Now, maybe it would have been better if I'd just left it at that.
But I knew something about Heather's circumstances, or at least
I thought I did, based on things that Heather has told myself
and my wife. I knew (or thought I knew, based on things that
Heather had told both myself and my wife) Heather had actually
  _sought_  to be issued with a "Notice To Quit", which her aunt
had been a bit reluctant about. So I mentioned this. Big mistake.
The capitalist media sometimes takes a bit of interest in Heather
(along the lines of "former child start messes up adult life")
and Heather accused me of getting my information from two
newspaper articles about her, in the "Sun" and the "Record"
I think. Wrong. I hadn't seen these newspaper articles and
I hadn't spoken to anybody else who had. Everything I knew
(or thought I knew, maybe I got it mixed up) was based
on what Heather herself had told me and my wife.
Okay, so my attempt to explain why other Scottish
anarchists were not getting involved in Heather's
complicated family inheritance problems went wrong.
But what I did  NOT  do was "random flaming".


> posting RL info


What does  RL  stand for ?

I can neither confirm nor deny "posting  RL  info"
if I don't know what this means.


> threats of physical violence


Entirely one-sided.

My wife Keri occasionally beats me up. She is no weakling,
she packs quite a punch. This has happened intermittently
ever since we have been together. She says it is because
I can be completely impossible sometimes. Well okay,
I admit that, I  _can_  be completely impossible sometimes.
But when this leads Keri to hit me, even though I am physically
the stronger, then I am at a disadvantage, because I have
this deep-rooted taboo against hitting women. Usually
when this happens I just try restraining, rather than
hitting back. It would be the same with Heather.
Like I say, the threats of violence are entirely
one-sided.


> Could you two consider plonking ( publicly kill-filing/filtering) each
other?


Heather had said that she had in fact done this
where I was concerned. Like some other things
Heather said, this turned out not to be entirely
acccurate. As for me, if folk may be making
remarks about, or even indirect allusions to,
me in their posts, then I like to know what may
be being said relating to me.


> Or enjoy your flamewar


I don't really enjoy flame wars in general,
and certainly not with somebody who was
a friend until fairly recently.


> and really cut loose on each other


I have avoided doing this.


> Go the full monty and start cyberstalking
> each other in outside forums. Google
> each other, and attack at random *wherever*
> the other posts.


I have in actual fact been on the receiving end
of some of this, absolutely nothing to do with
Heather. I think that folk who go in for that
sort of thing ought to get a life.


> File restraining orders and make
> police complaints on each other...


Not my style


> I'll just sit back and watch...could
> someone pass the popcorn, please?


Sorry, Kristopher, I'm not interested
in a part in this or any other movie.


Dave Coull