From: "Heather Glaisyer" <heather-AT-teknopunx.co.uk>
Subject: Re: nomadology
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 18:54:30 +0100



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From: "danceswithcarp" <dcombs-AT-bloomington.in.us>
To: "Dave Coull" <coull2-AT-btinternet.com>
Cc: "The Usual Suspects" <anarchy-list-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: nomadology


snip
 very few people ever really use the term "dropping out"
in a purely literal sense.  So on one hand, yes, somewhere a person will
probably have to deal with *a* social order but it is also possible that
the contacts with the social order might not necessarily be with the
predominate one--the one they dropped out of.

H
True of travellers I have lived with, travellers that earned their living
selling crafts, breeding dogs, collecting and selling scrap and firweood,
street entairtainment and many other creative ways of earning what little
they need to survive, living in mobile homes on the road mostly but some
horsedrawn and/or in benders in remote corridors of unclaimed land where no
one bothers them. Their births deaths and marraiges were unrecorded, kids
don't go to school and they generally have little social contact with those
living within the state governed system. The CJA here dessimated their
numbers but I occassionally get word from a few that still maintain a
lifestyle that the state has little or no control over.Check out whats
happening in Bougainville Moldorar-inspirational, but not nomadic (theres a
video called "coconut revolution" if your interested I'll find out how to
get a copy)
H

The Ishmaelites of the U$ are a good example; they fled the colonies
individually and in small groups and coalesced on the western side of the
appalachian mountains into a true alternative social order.

Can this be done now?  I don't know.  But I saw where Indonesia has 17,000
islands and islets so there is a chance.  Of course if one desires any of
the little baubles and trinkets of current socieites then there is a cord
of connection, but this cord can be minimized.  It just depends on whether
a person has the true desire to minimize this connection.

> As for Hakim Bey, he is a fraud and a charlatan.

Broaden your horizons: Bey and Hakim are very common names in the moorish
temple; I really think the one I'm referencing isn't the one you are.

But since you brought it up, how do you deduce Bey is a "fraud and
charlatan?"  In the literal sense, of course.



carp